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Offline bufguy

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QUATUOR
« on: August 09, 2019, 01:55:35 pm »
 I was wondering what people's thoughts are on QUATUOR study which studied HIV positive patients who took their meds 4 days per week and refrained the other 3. The study showed they were for the most part maintain an undetectable viral load. This seems to mimic a study about ten years ago, FOTO, Five days On, Two days Off which showed that patients on Atripla maintained suppression by taking their meds for five days and refraining for two.
A decreased regimen could have a profound effect on the cost of meds for people...20-30% savings plus a lessened drug burden on the body.
What are people's thoughts? Has anyone tried this reduced regimen?
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Offline Ptrk3

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Re: QUATUOR
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2019, 02:35:28 pm »
I don't think it's a good idea to start a four-day per week regimen (on Atripla or any other single-pill) until all phases of the study are completed (including withstanding the scientific process/method and required peer review) and the regimen is adopted throughout the healthcare community.

It is my conviction that HIV-positive individuals should work closely with his or her healthcare provider to maintain health and well being, according to the current scientific and medical protocol for the specific individual (individual outliers may always exist who require a specific antiretroviral regimen:  no one should experiment on his or her own and risk treatment failure of an antiretroviral class).

That written, yes, it would be a very good thing, indeed, if the study pans out.  Let's  hope it does!
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Re: QUATUOR
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2019, 02:44:09 pm »
Hiya

We have a thread on this study. https://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=72799.0

4 days a week would make no direct difference to me and, the study so far is too early days for my comfort level given resistance risks dropping two/three days of meds is no pill burden reduction if you are the unlucky sod who ends up resistant, although who knows what the future brings in the meantime I will stay put on 7 days

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Offline virgo313

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Re: QUATUOR
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2019, 01:10:07 am »
I will take mine daily until a day when Dr advise otherwise.
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Offline bufguy

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Re: QUATUOR
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2019, 07:10:02 pm »
Thank You for the link.....I reread the article on the FOTO study from 2009. The study was pretty convincing as to 5 days on 2 days off. The only comment was the small sample size. The results though are pretty extraordinary and it begs the question why wasn't there more in depth larger sample study? And know we see another study that backs it up. Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist but it certainly wouldn"t be in Gilead"s best interest to show that people with HIV could thrive with 30% less meds....Just sayin"
5/29/08 confirmed HIV+
6/23/08 Vl 47500  CD4 511/29% CD8 .60
start atripla
8/1/08 Vl 130  CD4 667/31% CD8 .70
9/18/08 Vl un  CD4 not tested
12/19/08 Vl un CD4 723/32% CD8 .80
4/3/09 Vl un CD4 615/36% CD8  .98
8/7/09 vl un CD4 689/35% CD8 .9
12/11/09 vl un CD4 712/38% CD8 .89
4/9/10 vl un CD4 796/39% CD8 1.0
8/20/10 vl un CD4 787/38% CD8 1.0
4/6/10 vl un CD4 865/35% CD8 .9
8/16/10 vl un CD4 924/37% CD8 1.0
12/23/10 vl un CD4 1006/35% CD8 .9
5/2/10 vl un CD4 1040/39% CD8 .9
8/7/13 vl un CD4 840/39% CD8 .
11/29/18 vl un CD4 1080/39% CD8  .86

Offline wardp

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Re: QUATUOR
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2019, 01:30:05 pm »
.every individuals HIV vl CD count is different not one size fits all. 4 days a week might make you less compliant also.
Diagd 20,July 2017. Cd4 289, 21% vld .3,462  atripla 4/8/17, 5/10/17 cd4 384 21%, ud.  complera 4/11/2017 switched to stribild 15/11/17. Switched to truvada efavirence 200mgx2 14 Dec 2017, 2 Feb 2018, uD cd4  466, 25%  CD 8 ,595, 32%..1 may 2018
switched  to instgra truvada.7th june switched to truvada  nevirapine stavudine. .21 june switched to truvada nevirapine. X 2 a day...9 aug 2018 ud. 2n Nov 2018 CD 4. 455..22.70% 13th Nov switched  to lamivir and nevirapine  due to kidney issues...jan 10,2019 UD..may 13 2019 ud  cd4 482 28% 14th nov 2019 ud. Cd4 414 .27% cd8 444 29%,may 16 2020,ud ,cd4 741"19.62. Dec 2020.ud.jan21 cd4 453. 25.7% 5/6/21.UD. cd4 621;{27.21%}19/10/21 UD.cd4 420; 28%.apr 19;2022 UD cd4 455' 26%.oct 22,UD, cd4 381,27% 10/4.23 UD CD4 462 29%.2/10/23 cd4 378,28%

 


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