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Author Topic: NHS DENTISTS (NORTH LONDON)UK  (Read 2035 times)

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Offline tigger2376

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« on: February 18, 2007, 10:33:05 PM »
Has anyone got a good NHS dentist in North london in Uk who is prepared to treat people who would rather be honest about their status? I realise it is illegal for dentists to turn me down purely because I have HIV but its amazing how many, (227), have found that they all of a sudden have full lists or 'aren't equipped to deal with me'. Need root canal work and a crown on a front tooth desperately,as well as 8 fillings, but need to be sedated. Am on benefits and just can't afford private work. Am going on TV soon as part of a BBC serious documentary on HIV and wish I could get it sorted before. Have tried Eastman,(UCH),Guys,Royal Free and local PCT but no joy,either lack of funding or this is considered non essential. In agony evey day as nerve exposed,any ideas please?
I know i'm going to enjoy the party in the afterlife, but do you all mind that I'm going to be VERY late!!!

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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2007, 12:09:28 PM »
I am being seen at King's College Hospital's School of Dentistry.  Having said that, they are not going to do naything that is non essential and want to take one of my side teeth out.  The only way I am going to get a crown is if I pay for it.

People are going to be more interested in what you are going to say on the programme, rather than looking at you and thinking that you could do with fillings and a crown.

Kudos on wanting to share your story on the TV.  You could always try not to smile  ;)

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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2007, 07:59:12 AM »
If the nerve is exposed & you are in pain, this counts as urgent.
Re the hiv issue, if their lists are open, they're open. To everyone. You report them if they get silly. I might ask a question like "how much experience do you have of treating hiv+ patients?" or summat similar before registering.

North London, quite a big area…these 2, not recommendations, just friends have used - both do emergency care for unregistered nhs patients:
N1 dental surgery

Colindale dental practice

Both are currently accepting charge exempt adults to their non emergency practices too.

If you go to the nhs website you can choose to search by local area/postcode - this will bring up a list of practices, which patients they are currently accepting, & the services they offer  (like Islington PCT and Camden PCT )

There will also be a phone number for a general dental enquiry line, who can give further information, & contact details for the area's PALS team, who can give info + advocacy support.
Your hiv clinic will prob have details of local dental practices too. As a last resort there are also Community Dental Services, designed for people who have difficulty accessing treatment (for whatever health issue) Several of these run specific hiv clinics.
There is usually quite a long waiting list though, & some are better than others - if you want further details, either ask via the phone numbers I mentioned above, or PM me with your PCT area.
« Last Edit: February 20, 2007, 08:23:38 AM by penguin »

Offline tigger2376

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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2007, 11:09:44 PM »
Thankyou both.
Have found one due to your suggestions. Getting all work done under sedation and have found out that crown can be paid for if you are on income support.
There is still a big problem with dentists and HIV. i've lost count of the number who told me they 'were'nt set up' for positive people. If you report them,all that happens is they get a nasty letter from the dental practice board. I know legally I didn't have to disclose but morally I would't have felt right.
Work starts 8/3,looking forward to smiling more often
thanks again
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« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2007, 11:30:56 PM »
You know Tigger, in Australia we have a similar system of public health to your NHS. I don't know if this is any help, but being HIV+ was actually an advantage for me when it came to accessing dental services.

I was given "priority status". :D

And rightly so. If AIDS doesn't qualify one as medically significant then I'm fucked if I know what does.


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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2007, 10:24:58 AM »
There's a dental centre as part of the Mortimer Market centre, it's part of UCH but its by Capper St, off Tottenham Court Road. All they do is HIV dentistry.

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Offline tigger2376

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« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2007, 07:09:32 PM »
Mortimer Market dental is either already closed or just about to be, so The Eastman tells me. yet another example of HIV services being cut because PCTS are allowed to. Makes my blood boil. Maybe when they do 'red nose day' live I'll demonstrate....people in UK need help too. But they wouldn't show it...
I know i'm going to enjoy the party in the afterlife, but do you all mind that I'm going to be VERY late!!!

Offline Cliff

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« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2007, 04:11:53 AM »
Yes.  I've heard that as well (MM is my clinic).  It's suppose to be closed by April (and probably aren't taking on new patients).  I also heard that Mortimer is now going to do viral load and tcell counts only once a year.  They must have really blown through their budget this year.

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« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2007, 04:45:11 AM »
The nurse saide to me that MM is encouraging people off treatment with high CD4s or on meds and stable, ie undetectable and CD4 is good (enough) to come for routine bloods every 4-6 months, for people where a more frequent test may make a difference, more often. The diagnostics at MM are very good, perhaps leading, it is one of the few clinics that routinely does resistance, sickle cell and G6PD deficiency testing on diagnosis, urine dipstick tests for people on tenofovir, haplotype testing before prescribing abacavir, fasting lipids for people on PIs and vl one month after starting combo (<< everyone should do these last four). But yes, the GUM side of the unit is well overspent and it affects the HIV side.

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Offline tigger2376

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« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2007, 08:18:07 AM »
I go to the Royal free, Ian charleson day centre. Theyr'e pretty good but have noticed services quietly being nibbled away. Trouble is, HIV services used to be the 'gold standard' in healthcare. When PCTs were given the chance to bring all their services into line, most of them chose to cut HIV funding so ALL services were shit rather than pull other departments into line. They were given the option of taking 30% off their budgets, so of course they took it!
What I want to know is this. If there are more of us, living longer, doesn't that mean MORE money is needed?
And wheres the 'ringfenced' funding Mrs Thatcher put in place that was supposed to be untouchable and topped up constantly?
It just seems like HIV/AIDS is no longer the healthcare 'buzzword'. We are no longer a novelty guys, and it feels like we're being herded into a corner to just get on with it.
I write letters, I moan, I stick my head above the parapet but seem to get nowhere.
I know i'm going to enjoy the party in the afterlife, but do you all mind that I'm going to be VERY late!!!


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