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Author Topic: At the end of my tether  (Read 391 times)

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At the end of my tether
« on: February 19, 2021, 03:48:59 am »
I feel like crying as I write this I am so stressed I don't know what to do anymore.
I want to get married and I took an HIV test as that is a rule in my country. It was antigen/antibody test and it was negative but I am having trouble accepting the result.
My story goes like this. 7 YEARS ago I stupidly French kissed a random guy and he put his hand in my underwear and touched me (I'm a female). I never saw him again and I have no idea about his status. Ever since then I'm scared to the core about HIV. I don't know if his hands were bleeding or if his mouth was bleeding. I never tested back then but now since I want to get married I tested after all those years.

My questions are:
1) I have read that the 4th gen test checks for antigen and IGM & IGG antibodies but that the antigen is useless after so many years so I would be relying on the antibody portion of the test. However a simple google search also reveals that the igM HIV antibodies disappear within a few months as they are for recent infections. So does that mean I can only rely on igG antibodies as google says those are for life. Or for a test to be conclusive I should have both detectable igM igG antibodies? Or is one class of iGG antibody enough to give a negative/positive result? I mean did I wait too long and hence my test after 7 years is a false negative?

2) I have also read that waiting too long means you could be in the last stage of Aids in which case your body won't produce antibodies at all. I have been getting some strange symptoms on my nails and google lists HIV as one possible cause of Terry's nails which is what I have confirmed by a skin doctor. If I didn't have symptoms I wouldn't freak out so much but now I feel totally helpless. I know PCR testing is not for diagnosis so what other option do I have? What if I am in the last stage at 7 years and I can't make antibodies?

3) Is there any other test I should take? Would a 3rd generation antibody only test be more reliable than the 4th generation test I took? I couldn't find any lab in my city that had an antibody only test :(

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Re: At the end of my tether
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2021, 03:59:36 am »
Hiya.

Sorry to hear you are so stressed.

Kissing and being touched is not an HIV risk, you did not acquire HIV from this event 7 years ago.

1) If you are living with HIV you would continue to produce antibodies.
2) No, as you are not dead, it's not an issue.
3) No.

The test you took is considered conclusive. Although, not testing would have been conclusive over this as you can't acquire HIV the way you fear.

Relax, move on with your life.

Here's what you need to know to avoid HIV infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions. Consider talking to your health care provider about taking PrEP going forward as an additional layer of HIV protection.

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as ‘safe’ in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

Kind regards

Jim

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Re: At the end of my tether
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2021, 04:21:41 am »
But since I am getting some strange symptoms that google lists are possible because of HIV what if I could have it and be in the last stage since it's been 7 years? I just keep thinking what if all the time! This is just a strange situation I find myself in. There is no other test I can do because I know a PCR isn't a standalone and it is prone to false results. Western blot isn't even used anymore and is for confirmation, so basically I have no choice but to trust the test result I have right? And 7 years isn't too late to test right?

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Re: At the end of my tether
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2021, 04:59:56 am »
Essentially you are asking me the same questions again. The answer is not going to change. Now I understand you have this fear albeit irrational. However, I am not going to pretend its an HIV issue

You can't have acquired HIV from the events posted here. You don't need any further HIV testing, you didn't need any over this incident to start with and the result is conclusive.

You are HIV negative unless you have had very recent exposures (within 3 months before testing) not mentioned here.


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Re: At the end of my tether
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2021, 05:07:15 am »
Thank you I do understand it's an irrational fear. I just fear infecting my spouse and unborn kids in the future it cripples me to think that.
Just one last time, my main question about igM disappearing early on, will just igG be enough to give a conclusive result? Or the fact that I tested much later than 3 months means I will never get a conclusive result?

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Re: At the end of my tether
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2021, 06:41:07 am »
Stand-alone or combined the antibodies part of the test would be more than conclusive 3 months after exposure.

To explain, the window period is the time between the moment you acquire HIV and the point when the body will produce sufficient antibodies for the test to give an accurate result. This window is at its longest 3 months even on older versions of the antibodies test in use.

Now I've already explained several times the HIV test results are considered conclusive not that you need one as you had zero HIV exposure from the event mentioned 7 years ago.

I wish you well but if you post about this again I will consider it excessive and give you a 28-day ban to encourage you to consider speaking to a therapist about your irrational fears.

To reduce your HIV risks use condoms for any intercourse, no exceptions and test as you are sexually active at least yearly for HIV & STI's.


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