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Flip condom
« on: January 07, 2021, 07:02:28 am »
Hi everyone, thank you for this opportunity! I am really freaking out about an encounter with another man 59 days ago.. So this is what happened:
We kissed a lot, sucked his penis for 2 minutes and then he start putting a condom but first was trying in the wrong side. So he flip and put in the right side. After this i blew up again for a minute and jerk it a little. He fucked my hole until cum with that condom.
After all of this i dont have peace. I got herpes (dont know if was caught for kissing or oral sex) and i start to think about that flipped condom. If there was precum of a person with high viral load on condom, and enter on my anus after some seconds its this risky?
I dont have peace because i have all the symptoms..

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Re: Flip condom
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2021, 07:54:54 am »
Hiya.

Kissing and masturbation is not an HIV risk.

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sucked his penis

The mouth generally lacks route for HIV to infect, and saliva also acts to neutralize HIV by damaging the receptors needed to infect human cells.

It's such a minute HIV risk that we don't even recommend specifically testing over it. Just get tested whenever you are next normally due a routine check-up.

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he start putting a condom but first was trying in the wrong side. So he flip and put in the right side.

It's not an HIV concern.

However next time use a new condom as easier to acquire STI's would be a concern asides from possibly damaging the condom.

Regarding condoms, Condom Usage in short:

What you need to know about condoms is that latex or polyurethane are effective barriers against HIV, HIV simply can not transmit through the intact barrier.

Use approved condoms. In other words check for a certification mark (FDA, CE, ISO or Kitemark). This means it complies with safety standards. Check the expiry date and make sure the condom is still in date.

Use lubricant, condom safe water-based lubricants makes condoms more comfortable and reduces the risk of breakage. – but avoid oil-based lubricants as they can weaken or break condoms.

As for putting the condom on correctly, as incorrectly done it increases the risk of breakage.  Place one on top of the erect penis and pinch the teat at the end of the condom before you start to roll it down the penis. By doing this you’ll squeeze out any air bubbles and ensure there is room for the semen (cum). Roll the condom down to the base of the penis.

If it's on correctly it will roll downwards easily. If you've started putting it on the wrong way take it off and even if you or your partner has not ejaculated (cum) there can still be semen or (pre-cum), so it’s important to try again with a new condom. (More to do with risks from other STI's than anything else)

Here's what you need to know to avoid HIV infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions. Consider talking to your healthcare provider about PrEP as an additional layer of HIV protection.

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as ‘safe’ in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

Kind regards

Jim

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Re: Flip condom
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2021, 08:06:40 am »
Thank u Jim for ur work! Ur answer is really clear all always. Permit me express other concerns:
- I was thinkin that my situation (condom with problably some pre cum) its similar to the situations like frottage without condom before penetration with condom (sending some pre cum to the hole) and get fingered with fluids. All these are no risky for HIV?
- Second question, i dont know if i caught HSV1 or HSV2, so i have read that a lot of HIV infections comes with Herpes2: thats my fear, if i got Herpes 2 its more problable that i get HIV? His pre cum is more infectable with more cells?

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Re: Flip condom
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2021, 08:24:42 am »
1) Getting fingered and rubbing is not how HIV is acquired. Any pre-cum on the condom was minor and exposure outside the body. You simply had no HIV from this.

The only HIV risk mentioned was the BJ and as said that is so minute due to the barriers at play that we don't recommend stressing or testing over it outside of routine.

2) No.

The theory of STI "increasing" the odds of HIV transmission is nothing new, if
someone has a preexisting STI to causing as example inflammation, warts or open sores etc within their anal or vaginal track or top of their penis than it might when this someone takes an already known established HIV risk, like condomless intercourse increase the likelihood of HIV being transmitted during that know risk event, inside the confines of the human body.

However, it does not create an HIV risk where none existed in the first place.
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Re: Flip condom
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2021, 08:34:26 am »
He haven HSV2 on penis will not increase the risk's of my blowjob? My gums are not good and have some blood sometimes. After the encounter I think about PEP but people gave me the information that blowjob without cum is not a situation for taking the pills. Its really a not situation for PEP?

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Re: Flip condom
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2021, 08:41:01 am »
As explained, the mouth generally lacks route for HIV to infect. Now even if he had another STI it makes no difference and as for you even if you had an STI in your mouth or gaping holes like meth mouth saliva also acts to neutralize HIV by damaging the receptors needed to infect human cells.

It's such a minute risk that we don't even recommend specifically testing over it.
Just get tested whenever you are next normally due a routine check-up.

By the sounds of it, you have not seen a doctor regarding your herpes outbreak. Do so they can confirm what it is instead of presuming and if it is herpes you can discuss treatment to reduce symptoms and you may be able to get ongoing treatment to reduce the risk of passing it on. Keep in mind that even when you don't have a visible outbreak you can still pass it on and ongoing treatment will help reduce this risk.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2021, 08:46:24 am by Jim Allen »
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