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Author Topic: HIV risk through mucosal membrane  (Read 597 times)

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HIV risk through mucosal membrane
« on: December 28, 2020, 04:35:45 am »
I am a 25 year old who has only ever given 6 blowjobs- all hookups found via Grindr, and all oral experiences with a condom.

The last two experiences I had (one on November 1st/ another on November 4th 2020) were with guys that ejaculate a lot. I sucked them with a condom on, and when giving me a facial, both guys on both days ejaculated about 1 and a little bit shotglasses worth of cum directly into my eyes, and some went in my nose and mouth. I had Lasik eye surgery done 5 months prior.

I'm unaware of their hiv statuses, and am worried that if they recently contracted it and/or have a high viral load, that I could potentially have contracted it, as I didn't think to go on PEP at the time.
Needless to say, I am in panic mode, and am desperately praying for the best.

1. Was this a risk?
2. Should I be worried at all?
3. Has anyone ever contracted HIV in this manner?

Thank you for everything you do. Kindest Regard

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Re: HIV risk through mucosal membrane
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2020, 04:54:33 am »
Hiya,

What you posted isn't an HIV concern.

Here's what you need to know to avoid HIV infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions. Consider talking to your healthcare provider about PrEP as an additional layer of HIV protection going forward.

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as ‘safe’ in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

Kind regards

Jim

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Re: HIV risk through mucosal membrane
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2020, 05:02:41 am »
Thank you for your response.

According to the CDC, semen to the eye is counted as a risk through a mucosal membrane, and given that I had LASIK eye surgery done months before the "potential exposure" wouldn't that give access for HIV?

I've read that once HIV is exposed to the air, it can't transmit the virus, but if the viral load is high, combined with the volume of semen, then surely it would be able to?

Has anyone ever contracted HIV through the eye?

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Re: HIV risk through mucosal membrane
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2020, 05:08:23 am »
What you posted isn't an HIV concern and hence nobody has acquired HIV the way you fear regardless of the viral load.

Move on with your life, continue to use condoms and test out of standard routine at least yearly for STI's & HIV.


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Re: HIV risk through mucosal membrane
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2020, 05:55:06 am »
Thank you again for your response.

So if both of their loads were 200,000+ and the 2 shot glasses full worth of volume that it was, I still wouldn't contract hiv?

If it's 0 risk, then why does the CDC offer a percentage risk of transmission in this case?

I'm experiencing lymph nodes in the groin and armpits, muscle aches, chills, fatigue and a cough, and these are all symptoms?

Also, can you direct me to any literature that correlates that no one has contracted hiv through this way?

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Re: HIV risk through mucosal membrane
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2020, 06:12:11 am »
Asked and answered.

Transmission of HIV through the mucus membranes of the face following contact with fluids are counted on one hand as rarities to the extreme, and under situations in professional environments not community settings like your concerns. i.e direct contact with arterial spray, bleeding to death, etc. In the face, there is 1 suspected unconfirmed lab incident about the eyes & blood from about 20 years ago.

There are no confirmed cases the way you fear and the barriers to the concerns as well understood. As to why some hold onto outdated or publish contextless risks i.e CYA (Cover your ass) including things like spitting, kissing etc I don't know but I've given you the context of this non-existent risk.

Finally, I am not a librarian, the vectors for acquiring HIV are well understood, so is the biological requirements and barriers post the HAART era (Late 90's) and documented, I've read it all over the decades, you are free to read it as well.
« Last Edit: December 28, 2020, 06:17:05 am by Jim Allen »
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