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Author Topic: Needle prick hiv risk  (Read 739 times)

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Needle prick hiv risk
« on: December 12, 2020, 07:02:37 am »
Hi, While cleaning house today I got 1 year old sewing pin/needle (solid needle not hollow like syringe needle). Since it was old I decided to trash it . I threw out sewing needle in my garage trash bin. The trash bin had few cardboard boxes (amazon item delivery boxes) and letters I had received in regular mail that I had trashed few hours before it was all dry no wet trash. 2 hrs latter I had to rearrange the trash bin as it was getting full. While doing it I was stuck on my finger by the sewing needle I had discarded. Got few 1-2 drops of blood when I pressed it.

 
We have No hiv+ people in-house (as it's just me and my husband and we always use condoms for sex), so fair to assume the sewing needle did not have hiv+ blood from house even if someone was stuck by it prior to me getting pricked.

So questions I have are

1. Did I put myself at risk for hiv, paranoid thinking that somehow the needle might have got dirty or contaminated by touching boxes or paper mail in trash I had dumped 2 guys prior.

2. Does hiv virus move between inanimate objects and cause infection in this case from hiv + person to cardboard box to needle to me

3. Is 2 hrs enough to kill virus if it was on cardboard boxes

4 do I need testing

Thank you
« Last Edit: December 12, 2020, 07:14:15 am by Malmarut »

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Re: Needle prick hiv risk
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2020, 08:39:47 am »
1) No 2) No 3) No, its also not relevant, HIV is fragile and would no longer be infectious asides from this concern lacking all the other conditions needed.
4) Not over this incident but as you are sexually active you should be testing for HIV and far easier to acquire STI's at least yearly.

Look for sharp objects to be an HIV risk it would have to be a hallow needle and in a community setting even discarded hollow needles have never resulted in someone acquiring as it lacks the conditions needed. You would have to be injecting yourself, i.e Using drugs, sharing syringes

Here's what you need to know to avoid HIV infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions. Consider starting PrEP as an additional layer of HIV protection going forward.

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as ‘safe’ in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

Kind regards

Jim

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Re: Needle prick hiv risk
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2020, 09:01:37 am »
Thank you for fast response Jim. So just to summarize I am NOT at risk whatsoever over this incidence as the needle was not hollow, was exposed to environment, virus does not move between inanimate objectsbto cause infection. Basically lacks all needed conditions for infection.

So I do not need specific testing over this incidence. I will test out of routine end of next year as I am sexually active as you suggested.

And since you are not recomending testing over this Norisk  incidence I guess makes No sense to request for PEP to a DR.

Also you said No to virus dying out in 2 hrs was it typo as you then said the virus would be non infectious once exposed to environment

I am.just amazed how much information you and other members of this forum have on HIV.

God bless you
« Last Edit: December 12, 2020, 09:29:33 am by Malmarut »

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Re: Needle prick hiv risk
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2020, 09:46:04 am »
No typo at all. HIV is fragile and the receptors needed to cause infection corrode once exposed to the environment outside the human body. Alive or dead could be debated however its totally irrelevant.

No HIV exposure from this incident, no testing needed, let along PEP. Relax and move on with your life.

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Re: Needle prick hiv risk
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2020, 05:29:53 pm »
Hello Jim, can you also please evaluate my risk with one more incidences. About 2 weeks back I had ordered some food for takeout from restaurant. There was receipt stapled to brown bag with food boxes. While trying to remove the receipt I got slightly poked by the stapler pin when I squeezed remember just a drop of blood came out. Time between the stapler attached to receipt by restaurant and it pricking me would have been about 10-15  mins.

3 questions for you

1. Does this pose any HIV risk to me and is testing needed for this incidence.
2. From what I have read typically hollow needles and syringes with visible blood in healthcare setup are of risk is this true?. Just curious why just healthcare setting?
3. So any day to day contacts and pokes with pins/metals/glass etc even with slight blood should be ignored for possible HIV No Risk?

Thank you

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Re: Needle prick hiv risk
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2020, 06:33:57 pm »
Hello Jim, can you also please evaluate my risk with one more incidences. About 2 weeks back I had ordered some food for takeout from restaurant. There was receipt stapled to brown bag with food boxes. While trying to remove the receipt I got slightly poked by the stapler pin when I squeezed remember just a drop of blood came out. Time between the stapler attached to receipt by restaurant and it pricking me would have been about 10-15  mins.

Same as with the first concern. Removing a paper or cardboard staple isn't an HIV risk.

HIV can be acquired through shared needles (syringes), this is mainly due to vacuum and injection of backwash quantity into the bloodstream, or in occupational settings (Hospitals) with hollow needle injuries (highly rare).

However, this does not apply to discarded syringes, let alone sharp objects like pins/staples closed needles etc, in part due to HIV being too fragile to remain infectious once exposed outside the human body and it lacking quantity to infect hence it makes perfect sense there has not been a single documented cases of HIV transmission due to contact a discarded sharps or pins/staples closed needles of any kind.

1) No testing required over these incidents as you had no exposure to HIV.

2) It's an extremely rare route in occupational settings, hollow needles with injury within seconds and a volume of blood directly introduced. The conditions are nothing like coming into contact with sharp objects like you are concerned about.

3) Correct, contact with pins/metals/glass etc are not HIV risks.

« Last Edit: December 13, 2020, 06:39:00 pm by Jim Allen »
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