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Oral Sex, weird side affects
« on: September 28, 2020, 09:47:04 pm »
Hi all,

I had been dating an EMS worker for a month and I gave him oral sex, and he fingered me. After that night of oral sex, One week later I began experiencing severe dry mouth at night. I also had what felt like a cold for a few days.

The dry mouth happens every evening and my tongue looks a bit white. I looked it up and the internet said “dry mouth can be a symptom of HIV”.

May I please have some guidance on this?
Thank you!

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Re: Oral Sex, weird side affects
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2020, 11:06:03 pm »
Hiya,

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The dry mouth happens every evening and my tongue looks a bit white.

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I began experiencing severe dry mouth at night. I also had what felt like a cold for a few days.

Nothing mentioned is HIV specific, if you are having problems see your doctor so they can asses and treat whatever is causing it.

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I had been dating an EMS worker for a month and I gave him oral sex, and he fingered me.

Fingering isn't an HIV risk, as for giving a blowjob, the mouth generally lacks route for HIV to infect, and saliva also acts to neutralize HIV by damaging the receptors needed to infect human cells. It's such a minute risk that we don't even recommend specifically testing over it.

Just get tested whenever you are next normally due a routine check-up.

Here's what you need to know to avoid HIV infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions. Consider taking PrEP going forward as an additional layer of HIV protection.

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as ‘safe’ in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

Kind regards

Jim

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Re: Oral Sex, weird side affects
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2020, 08:15:09 pm »
Hi Jim,

I went to the doctor and I was diagnosed with Oral thrush. She said that it probably was given to me from the oral sex I had, and not necessarily related to HIV. Is that true?

Also I haven’t had any Vaginal/Anal sex since December, 2019. I was tested for HIV in February of 2020 and I tested “negative”. Since February I have ONLY had oral sex twice: once in July, and then my most recent experience. I’ve also kissed quite a few people (during dating). I’m scared because I keep reading that “oral thrush” is very uncommon unless you have underlying conditions ... do you think I’ve contracted the virus somehow through oral?

Thank you for your help!

« Last Edit: October 04, 2020, 08:27:33 pm by Sycamore »

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Re: Oral Sex, weird side affects
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2020, 10:10:20 pm »
It's not HIV specific. Oral thrush is simply an overgrowth of fungi that are naturally present in your mouth. Overgroth is commen enough, plently of reasons why, nearly every adult will experience it at some stage.

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Also I haven’t had any Vaginal/Anal sex since December, 2019. I was tested for HIV in February of 2020 and I tested “negative”. Since February I have ONLY had oral sex twice: once in July, and then my most recent experience. I’ve also kissed quite a few people (during dating). I’m scared because I keep reading that “oral thrush” is very uncommon unless you have underlying conditions ... do you think I’ve contracted the virus somehow through oral?

Kissing is not an HIV concern, as for giving a blowjob, as explained the mouth generally lacks route for HIV to infect, and saliva also acts to neutralize HIV by damaging the receptors needed to infect human cells.

It's such a minute risk that we don't even recommend specifically testing over it. Just get tested whenever you are next normally due a routine check-up.
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Re: Oral Sex, weird side affects
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2020, 09:02:39 am »
Hi Jim,

I have some new developments which I’m concerned about.

I took the medication for the oral thrush and then returned to the urgent care office for a follow-up as suggested.

This time I received a different doctor. I explained to him the nature of my visit (that I had oral sex and developed oral thrush) and that I wanted him to view my mouth to determine if it looked healthy again after the medicine.

He said my mouth looked fine. But then he asked me “do you know why you got oral thrush?”

And I told him “yes, I had oral sex and the first doctor I visited from here told me that if my partner had a penile yeast infection, he may have passed it to me.”

The doctor said “I mean....I guess”

Immediately I started freaking out and I asked the doctor “what do you mean you guess? Is that not possible?”

And the doctor said “I’ve never heard of that, but I suppose it’s possible.” He told me I should test again in 3 months since it “takes awhile for the test to turn positive”.

It felt like he was automatically assuming I was HIV + so I asked if I could see another doctor so that I can have a third opinion.

The third doctor came in and told me that he agrees with his colleague, passing oral thrush from penis to mouth is highly unlikely, especially if my male partner was circumcised (which he was).

So I asked him what other things could have caused the thrush?

The third doctor  immediately went into asking if I had been tested for HIV, etc. I got an HIV test my first visit, when I was first diagnosed with thrush. It came back negative. However it had been only 2 weeks post oral sex with the partner in question, and so I will need to be tested again.

The doctor told me since he wasn’t there for my first visit, he questions if I even had thrush in the first place, since thrush builds up on your cheeks and the back of your mouth, and can be scraped off. I only had a white tongue and a consistently dry mouth. The doctor felt like my original symptoms consisted more with a “coated tongue” diagnosis than “oral thrush”. He said oral thrush is extremely uncommon and he’s rarely ever seen patients other than infants with it.

I keep researching the difference between “coated tongue” and “oral thrush” but they keep fielding the same results.

The doctor said it could be also dehydration and too many carbs in my diet. I eat really healthy so I’m not sure if that’s possible. He also mentioned that since I’ve only been oral sex, it’s a highly low chance that I would have HIV but that I should repeat testing.

Since I tested negative, but I have to wait another 2 months to test again from this most recent oral activity, do you think I should be worried?

I’m so freaked out. Doctors keep giving me different advice. And I’ve engaged in ONLY oral sex this year: once in July, once in September (a month ago).

When I had the oral sex in September my mouth wasn’t bleeding at all. But yet and still I received the dry mouth and white tongue after that.

Also even though I took the medication, at times my tongue gets super dry and it burns. I saw somewhere on reddit that “dry mouth can be an initial symptom of HIV.”

Please, I just need some clarity because no one seems to know what’s going on, why my mouth is dry after this oral exposure in September, and I’m just freaking out.

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Re: Oral Sex, weird side affects
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2020, 09:26:39 am »
Hiya.

Not sure what the drama is about, I've already addressed all of this.

Thrush is simply an overgrowth of fungi normally present on/in all of us, it's common enough that nearly every adult will experience it regardless of HIV status. Diet, antibiotics, stress etc can trigger this.

Regarding HIV unless you have had other exposures not mentioned here it's not a concern. Use condoms for any intercourse, test out of standard routine at least yearly for HIV and STI's

Stop reading nonsense about symptoms online.


It's not HIV specific. Oral thrush is simply an overgrowth of fungi that are naturally present in your mouth. Overgroth is commen enough, plently of reasons why, nearly every adult will experience it at some stage.

Kissing is not an HIV concern, as for giving a blowjob, as explained the mouth generally lacks route for HIV to infect, and saliva also acts to neutralize HIV by damaging the receptors needed to infect human cells.

It's such a minute risk that we don't even recommend specifically testing over it. Just get tested whenever you are next normally due a routine check-up.
« Last Edit: October 19, 2020, 09:28:44 am by Jim Allen »
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