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Author Topic: TAF and generic Dolutegravir, Thailand  (Read 1212 times)

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Offline Expat1

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TAF and generic Dolutegravir, Thailand
« on: July 31, 2020, 05:28:28 am »
Sheryl on the Thai visa forum site has a new Red Cross price list and it shows Generic TAF  and generic DOG at very inexpensive prices.  Under 1000 Baht.

Anyone actually go there and get it yet?

Note the TAF  is without FTC.  So get a script for 300mg 3TC. Also.


Offline terrymoore

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Re: TAF and generic Dolutegravir, Thailand
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2020, 02:12:28 am »
Here is the price list :https://th.trcarc.org/en/anonymous-clinic/arv

Has anyone had a chance to buy?
Even though they now sell Genvoya, it is still double my current (generic) meds (Complera).
I am not sure if i should make the change. The only upside is using one pill vs 2 and the chance that the Truvada in the Complera  may affect bone density...
I will wait.

Offline Mindless

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Re: TAF and generic Dolutegravir, Thailand
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2020, 05:02:05 am »
Here is the price list :https://th.trcarc.org/en/anonymous-clinic/arv

Has anyone had a chance to buy?
Even though they now sell Genvoya, it is still double my current (generic) meds (Complera).
I am not sure if i should make the change. The only upside is using one pill vs 2 and the chance that the Truvada in the Complera  may affect bone density...
I will wait.

Hi Terry and Expat,

nice to see you both still on the forum, you gave me such a valuable support during my first years in.

I didnít buy TAF yet, the only reason being I didnít know it was available at TRCAC.

@Terry, you may simply replace TDF (ricovir-em) with TAF, basically switching from generic Complera to generic Odefsey. This is actually what I was planning to do but gave up due to TAF not (officially) available: my eGFR values have been steadily worsening in the last couple of years and Iím worried.

TAF is supposed to be less hard on your kidneys but reading lots of stuff on the web, it seems kind of a controversial subject (I read about a few points % of assumed benefit of TAF over TDF only when taken with a booster).

Too bad I just bought my 3 months supply of generic Complera.

Offline Mindless

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Re: TAF and generic Dolutegravir, Thailand
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2020, 05:07:53 am »

@Terry, you may simply replace TDF (ricovir-em) with TAF, basically switching from generic Complera to generic Odefsey. This is actually what I was planning to do but gave up due to TAF not (officially) available: my eGFR values have been steadily worsening in the last couple of years and Iím worried.

Sorry, just realized Iíve mistaken TDF/TAF with Truvada/Descovy, forget what I wrote.

Too much time away from the forum I guess, time to refresh I guess 😊🙏🏻

Offline Mindless

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Re: TAF and generic Dolutegravir, Thailand
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2020, 05:18:14 am »
PS: I gave Genvoya a try for 1 month as a change from generic Complera. Reason at the time was to understand if my bowel issues were related to the ART.

It turned out they werenít and I switched back: didnít have any noticeable side effect from Genvo but higher cost and other meds interactions made me prefer the first choice.

Offline Grasshopper

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Re: TAF and generic Dolutegravir, Thailand
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2020, 01:59:43 pm »

Offline Mindless

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Re: TAF and generic Dolutegravir, Thailand
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2020, 11:00:10 am »
Regarding Trubada and bone density decline:

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2019-07-bone-density-decline-truvada-prep.html

I guess weíre going a bit OT but thanks. And yes, seems like the subject is still somehow controversial.

I think also the following poz article is a decent summa on the topic: https://www.poz.com/basics/hiv-basics/taf-versus-tdf-difference

Offline Mindless

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Re: TAF and generic Dolutegravir, Thailand
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2020, 07:05:20 am »
More thoughts on generic DTG in Thailand.

Basically, this option opens the door to ďdualĒ therapies: generic Juluca (Dolutegravir+Rilpivirine) and generic Dovato (DTG+ Lamivudine). Both options would be 2 pills and around 1000 THB for a 30 days supply.

Rumor is that in a few months also Biktarvy (1 pill) should be available at TRCAC at a fair price.

Very interesting developments: seems like many options are/will be available, now the problem may be if and which way to go.

Offline Fareast4116

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Re: TAF and generic Dolutegravir, Thailand
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2020, 11:32:59 pm »
Wow, the generic options are really affordable and tempting. I wonder if generic DTG is available cross border to Malaysia. The price is probably 3x here.

Offline virgo313

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Re: TAF and generic Dolutegravir, Thailand
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2020, 06:57:00 am »
Generic hiv meds is only available ďfor government used onlyĒ in Mísia due to patent regulation.
https://www.twn.my/title2/IPR/pdf/ipr09.pdf
RVD Nov 2015. VL --> Log 5.32 HAART on 23/11/15
TDF+FTC+EFV / Chemo KS - 25/11/15 - 20/01/16.
CD4 - 4 (3/11/15) / VL - 225,000

 


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