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Offline Jim Allen

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Netflix History 101 S1 E9 - AIDS.
« on: May 26, 2020, 10:09:52 pm »
Has anyone else watched the new 2020 show Netflix History 101 S1 E9 - AIDS?

I found the language used nasty and outdated, the episode in my mind is just contributing to the spread of stigma. Anyone else who watched it any thoughts?

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Re: Netflix History 101 S1 E9 - AIDS.
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2020, 05:41:32 am »
I know you gave me a warning ,

so I will try not to hijack this thread

my youngest who is fifteen said he wanted to watch netflix in his room

he sees all the pills I take ?

I think this episode was the thing he wanted to watch ?

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Re: Netflix History 101 S1 E9 - AIDS.
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2020, 11:05:16 am »
Well it's not something I would recommend for anyone to watch who wants to learn something given the language used by the presenter is stigmatizing, also it's a missed opportunity as the show does touch on progress but leaves out TaSP/U=U, PEP and PrEP.
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Re: Netflix History 101 S1 E9 - AIDS.
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2020, 11:10:37 am »
Thanks for the tip and to forewarn about the language. Will watch it later tonight.

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Re: Netflix History 101 S1 E9 - AIDS.
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2020, 11:13:55 am »
Thanks for the tip and to forewarn about the language. Will watch it later tonight.

 8) Let us know what you thought.
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Re: Netflix History 101 S1 E9 - AIDS.
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2020, 01:59:18 pm »
Well it's not something I would recommend for anyone to watch who wants to learn something given the language used by the presenter is stigmatizing, also it's a missed opportunity as the show does touch on progress but leaves out TaSP/U=U, PEP and PrEP.

I just watched it...short doc only 22min.
I agree with the last part of your comment....a missed opportunity, however I don't think the intention was to educate the public about the disease it self. But to give an impression of how (mostly) the Americans dealt with the epidemic. It only emphasized the homophobia and intolerance in those days.
I recognize the language and images...I went to college in San Francisco from 1983-1989 and did my undergrad & gradschool at USF. Lived on Pine/California, had a parttime job at the Gramophone on Polkstreet. Aids was all around in my direct surroundings, saw people disappear one by one. My fav hangouts were the I-Beam on sundays, Trocadero Transfer (thursdays) and after work on saturdays the Midnightsun in Castro.
Hearing and seeing those comments/images again...30+ years on....don't face me anymore. It is wat it WAS, and have the impression that people living with hiv nowaday are less discriminated.

I would recommend this documentary to the young and recently diagnosed who has never been ill, who pop a single pill and carry on with their lives as if nothing has happened (lucky them), just to be able to put into perspective how much progression has been made: from a death sentence and exclusion to living a normal life and acceptance.
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Re: Netflix History 101 S1 E9 - AIDS.
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2020, 02:06:53 pm »
That's fine, everyone has an opinion.

To clarify though, I'm not phased by the language used at the time nor the images, it's a historic review.  However, I do have a problem with the 2020 presenter using such dated language. 

Print media is often bad enough on its own by continuing to use outdated and stigmatizing language without having Netflix adding to it as well. Anyhow, I suppose we all have different points of view on the topic.

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Re: Netflix History 101 S1 E9 - AIDS.
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2020, 02:22:24 pm »
Could it be perhaps a generation thingy?...me turning 58 in july and that I on a subconscious way recognized and subjected to the "outdated and stigmatizing" language that I was used to hear/read in those bygone years in San Francisco ?

Was this a British doc ? (they have a very particular way of narrating and presenting documentaries)

Even goede vrienden ?  ;)

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Re: Netflix History 101 S1 E9 - AIDS.
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2020, 03:59:41 pm »
Even goede vrienden ?  ;)

Wij zien dit anders, dat is wat mij betreft geen enkel probleem.  ;) Zelf ben ik het taalgebruik gewent, mag ook wel na all die tijd.

Punt is, hoe er over ons wordt gesproken en de taalgebruik in de media heeft invloed op het beeld dat wordt gecreŽerd bij mensen. Als we stigma willen verminderen voor mensen met HIV moet het beeld dat mede door taalgebruik gecreŽerd wordt in de media verbeteren.


Rough translation:

We see this prehaps differently, that not an issue. ;) I'm used to the language after all this time.

Point is, how we are talked about and the language used in the media influences the image that is created for people. If we want to reduce stigma for people with HIV, the image created partly by language in the media must improve.

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Re: Netflix History 101 S1 E9 - AIDS.
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2020, 10:49:03 pm »
Iíve seen it before reading this thread.

I canít judge on the language/wording: in my naive ignorance I didnít notice it or maybe itís the fact that I was almost asleep 😴 😅
IMHO though the title of the documentary is quite misleading in the second part:

Nearly 40 million people are living with HIV. After decades of research and activism, how far have we come in finding a cure and battling the stigma?

I didnít see anything about a cure or battling the stigma, just a quick mention about ďhiv medicationĒ been improved in the early 90í. Thatís it.

I know itís a 20 min doc and you canít expect a deep analysis but then they should at least not use that kind of misleading title.

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Re: Netflix History 101 S1 E9 - AIDS.
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2020, 11:06:51 am »
 
I found the language used nasty and outdated, the episode in my mind is just contributing to the spread of stigma. Anyone else who watched it any thoughts?

I agree, this tv show was quite outdated. I especially found the narrator's robotic cadence irritating, and the music soundtrack exaggerated, at times like the track from a suspense thriller.. tacky in the way it attempts to control an emotional response. But this is true for the series in general. It's just a terrible series.

The medical explanation as to what hiv is is rushed.. they don't explain how hiv hijacks a particular tcell and stays dormant even wirh treatment.

Thanks for pointing this out Jim, you're so on point, it is pretty nasty. I wish they would have left hiv out of this cheap series.
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Re: Netflix History 101 S1 E9 - AIDS.
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2020, 08:33:28 am »
Watching the History 101 here in Thailand so looked to watch episode 9 but itís been censored probably by the government so unable to watch has season 1 episode 1,2,3,4,5,5,6,8,.....then 10!

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Re: Netflix History 101 S1 E9 - AIDS.
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2020, 11:50:26 pm »
Watching the History 101 here in Thailand so looked to watch episode 9 but itís been censored probably by the government so unable to watch has season 1 episode 1,2,3,4,5,5,6,8,.....then 10!

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Re: Netflix History 101 S1 E9 - AIDS.
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2020, 12:21:28 am »
Did the documentary mention that the HIV epidemic was in the Black community in Missouri the 1969s but that the CDC only decided to pay attention in the 1980s when white guys started getting Ill?

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« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2020, 06:07:11 am »
Did the documentary mention that the HIV epidemic was in the Black community in Missouri the 1969s but that the CDC only decided to pay attention in the 1980s when white guys started getting Ill?

No, it did not cover that. Matter of fact I don't see it getting much discussion at all.
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Re: Netflix History 101 S1 E9 - AIDS.
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2020, 08:39:04 am »
I'm guessing it has lots of outraged misinformation and people calling hiv (the virus) aids.
It's weird how there's nothing said in media platforms like these (even on news outlets) about u=u or how people living with hiv live normal lives.
I hope there's newer documentary type series that appeals to the general public and actually informs people the right way.

 


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