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2 different encounters - scarified!
« on: April 26, 2020, 10:08:20 am »
Hello folks! First of all I'd like to thank you for all of your work. I respect your hard working and dedication.

I am really worried about two encounters. It is not just about the encounter itself but the things that came later on.

1. Getting penis sucked from CSW in August 2019. I remember that i came in condome, but I am not sure if there was a protection all the time while im being sucked. My memory is wrack - Its pushed deep down inside my mind. I dont remeber any blood that was involved or any cuts and sores, which doesn't mean that there weren't any. Something like 5 weeks after I had terrible cold, sore throat, but no fever, no rash nothing. 9 weeks after this very fist incident and 2 or 3 weeks after my cold went gone I took HIV test - came back negative. Now I know you dont want to talk about symptoms and I do respect that, but please understand that I just want to be very honest  so you can have the whole picture of what was going on at the time.

2. Mutual masturbation with two guys. Very briefly we were engaged in switching hands and we came separately so each guy jerked off himself. There was no scenarios such as using cum as a lube. The thing that I cant recall is if there was some others precume. It was very brief thing with switching hands. After that, lets say 3 months later or something like that I got mouth ulcer and some sores that come and go. Yesterday I got one again and I'm always thinking HIV.

Once again I am really sorry for being pain in the. . . I am just not sure how to cope with all this anxiety.

Thank you in advance!
« Last Edit: April 26, 2020, 10:11:29 am by The_spirit »

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Re: 2 different encounters - scarified!
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2020, 10:11:54 am »
Hiya,

Getting your penis sucked and masturbation is not an HIV risk to you. None whatsoever.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid HIV infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions.  Consider starting PrEP as an additional layer of HIV prevention going forward.

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as safe in terms of HIV might still pose a risk for transmission of other far easier to acquire STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

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Re: 2 different encounters - scarified!
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2020, 10:17:44 am »
Hi Jim,

Thank you for your fast reply. So from what you are saying there was no reason for me to take HIV test regarding first incident 9 weeks after, at the first place? But just to cover all bases what if csw had some sores in her mouth and same thing on my genitals, would be the outcome still be the same???? I'm very confused and I didn't want to seach other sites cause I know how bad it is when you feed your fears. Not good at all :(

Do I need any further HIV testing regarding these incidents?

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« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2020, 10:26:40 am »
Hiya

The condition of her mouth is irrelevant. It's not an HIV exposure to you, no risk, no need to test, nobody has ever been infected the way you fear, move on with your life.

Use condoms for any intercourse no exceptions and test like every sexually active adult should yearly for STI's and HIV out of standard routine.

Jim

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Re: 2 different encounters - scarified!
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2020, 10:38:08 am »
Thank you Jim! I do have one (hopefully) last question. It is regarding mutual masturbation. What if during switching hands precum of one person (lets say hiv positive person) came in contact with the tip of another guy's penis (urethra). Again I would add to this mix broken skin, sores on genitas and same goes for hands. Would that make any difference? I'm melting my brain in order to remeber as more details as possible.

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« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2020, 10:47:53 am »
No.

Nothing you mention about masturbation would make a risk where none existed.

You concerns lack all exposure to viable HIV and the conditions needed for the transmission of HIV, the presence of minor cuts, breaks in the skin, wounds or anything else you can think up doesn't change that. So for all these reasons and half a dozen more, I said no risk.  Nobody has ever acquired HIV the way you fear for good reason.

I am sorry that you have these fears but in short, HIV is not a concern unless you have had other sexual activities not mentioned here.

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Re: 2 different encounters - scarified!
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2020, 06:56:02 am »
Thank you Jim! Well, it's in my best interest to be completly honest in order to get the most valid information that I can get. There are no any other encounters. Only these two. My fears have a lot with guilt and that stand would 100% correct. The thing is I move on and live my life and then I get mouth ulcer and some wounds in my mouth out of nowhere and that scares me big time. That is the reason why I want so hard to understand how these things regarding HIV work. It can't be ARS. But than I say after first encounter 5 weeks later I had terrible cold. Runny nose not so much cough, no fever, I coundn't talk. So when that went over 2 weeks I did HIV test (blood from vein) it was negative and that would be 9th week after the first incident, but not 13th. And thsn mind starts playing :( and after that month or less cold came back for a week or two. Everytime I got some new things like yesterday these ulcers, wounds etc in my mouth it scares the **** out of me. Thank you for understanding, please do not judge but it is so hard to deal with this. Dont know what should I say to myself??

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« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2020, 06:59:54 am »
guilt over what? Feeling guilty doesn't spread HIV.

Your left testicle could fall off it's not HIV from the events mentioned here. It's that simple.

I'm sorry that you feel unwell, see a MD to treat whatever is making you feel unwell and consider speaking to a therapist to help you cope with your thoughts/fears.
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« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2020, 07:58:46 am »
Ok Jim, thank you big time! Just to sum up - from things I mentioned here - no HIV risk for any of these two events - no need for testing...correct??

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« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2020, 08:02:15 am »
Yup.

No HIV exposure to you, no risk, no need to test unless you have had other encounters/activities not mentioned here.

Use condoms for any intercourse no exceptions and test like every sexually active adult should yearly for STI's and HIV out of standard routine.
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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2020, 03:10:32 pm »
Greetings,

One question is just bugging me. Would it be realistic by any means to get mouth ulcers out of nowhere 3 months or 6 months after these exposures that I mentioned, since there are no other as body reaction to HIV??? I know ARS comes between 1 - 3 weeks after the potential exposure or 2-4 weeks. I know that we dont talk about the symptoms but pls make an exception this time. Thanks in advance!

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« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2020, 03:22:14 pm »
Hiya,

Asked and answered mate.

Not to be rude but your left testicle and right arm could fall off it's not HIV from the concerned incident as It simply was no HIV exposure, no HIV risk and it would be a disservice to pretend otherwise.

See a doctor to treat whatever is causing you problems, I hope you feel better soon.

Remember to use condoms for any intercourse no exceptions and test like every sexually active adult should yearly for STI's and HIV out of standard routine.


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« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2020, 06:31:03 pm »
Hello Jim...Thank you for your honesty and very dedicated answers. I am trying my very best no to come back or even worse to get time out but my mind just finds some other scenario. Since during my first incident (insertive oral sex with protection as far as I remember, but lets say for the moment there wasn't any) there was no visible blood from CSW lady. Would the outcome  be any different for me in terms of catching HIV if she would have sores (lets say meth mouth) and if there would be similar sitiation on my genitals?????

P.s. I promise I'll try to post questions as rare as possible...Thank you in advance!

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« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2020, 07:02:16 pm »
Hiya,

Asked and answered already.

Getting your penis sucked is not an HIV risk to you, regardless of the condition of her mouth. Receiving a blowjob simply lacks exposure and has too many barriers, hence nobody has ever acquired HIV the way you fear.

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The condition of her mouth is irrelevant. It's not an HIV exposure to you, no risk, no need to test, nobody has ever been infected the way you fear, move on with your life.

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No HIV exposure to you, no risk, no need to test unless you have had other encounters/activities not mentioned here.

Use condoms for any intercourse no exceptions and test like every sexually active adult should yearly for STI's and HIV out of standard routine.

Look I'm sorry that you are having fears but I'm unwilling to pretend what you are posting is an HIV risk, it would be a disservice to you and the community if I did.

Finally, allowing you to continue posting your fears about non-existent exposures is not helping you. So out of kindness and, to encourage you to seek face to face support to help you cope with your thoughts, posting about non-existent HIV risks again will result in a ban from the forum.

Wishing you well.

Best, Jim

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« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2020, 07:30:01 pm »
Thank you Jim. You are very polite. I am very honest person. I do have a problem that other people call HIVophobia and I will treat that thing so help me God. Poz.com was the only web site I turned to in order to get my answers since from what I saw  you are direct and very dedicated people. What I see as the bigest problem is so much fear, ao much stigma, so much drama and emotional behavior among the people when it comes to HIV that many people can't see these things logicaly. You did answer most of my questions and I know I am not the only one posting these these type of questions. I did my homework and I read everything here I could before even getting registered. 99% of people asked what if her/his mouth have this what if that. But I've never seen anyone asked what if both sides have some sort of herpes like oral herpes and genital herpes during oral, same goes for sores in mouth and warts on genitas and I could go on and on. My intends are not to keep posting here 24/7 which btw I am not doing, but to gain knowledge and to understand what is possible and what is SCI - FI regarding HIV infection. I am visiting my therapist already so I do not expect form you guys that thing and I knoh you guys are not doing that. The only reason I am returning here is when something (stupid or not) comes across my mind that I never saw being answered. I am really sorry about this novel. So...I promise I will try to stay away from this forum after your next answer. So, tu sum up. Getting blowjob would not pose any risk even if both sides have oral/genital herpes, warts,sores, breaks cuts at the same time during the act?????

Thank you Jim, you are very kind for not giving me already permanent ban. I respect that
« Last Edit: May 02, 2020, 07:32:28 pm by The_spirit »

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« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2020, 07:35:37 pm »
Asked and answered already.

It's also been asked plenty by other people. Now, you might be very polite ill give you that but I'm not going to continue. Wishing you all the best with the therapist, I mean that.

To help you though I am giving you as promised a ban.

Remember to reduce your HIV risks use condoms for any intercourse no exceptions and, test like every sexually active adult should yearly for STI's and HIV out of standard routine.

Best, Jim.
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