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Author Topic: Viral test each 6 months, Is it undetectabel btw 6 months?  (Read 947 times)

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Offline Minimua

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Viral test each 6 months, Is it undetectabel btw 6 months?
« on: April 21, 2020, 07:46:15 pm »
Hello, I was tested positive 10/2017 with 79,217 viral load.
soon I've started treatment With Genvoya, I'm undetectable & CD4 is 654.

07/2018 -> UD, 853
03/2019 -> UD, 1059
06/2019 -> 40, 939
02/2020 -> UD, 1084

I'm frustrated about taking meds fluctuated in 01/2020 ~ 02/2020.
Originally, I had to take the medicine at 8, but I took at 5 PM, or at 1 PM.
Is it still UD btw Jan/Feb 2020? I doubt my condition.
I know It is important taking meds at fixed time. So I'm nervous about it.


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Date   Taken On                       Date   Taken On
29.Feb   2020.2.29 8:01      31.Jan   2020.1.31 16:22
28.Feb   2020.2.28 7:48      30.Jan   2020.1.30 12:17
27.Feb   2020.2.27 12:57   29.Jan   2020.1.29 11:30
26.Feb   2020.2.26 13:51.  28.Jan   2020.1.28 8:32
25.Feb   2020.2.25 14:23.  27.Jan   2020.1.27 8:10
24.Feb   2020.2.24 12:54.  26.Jan   2020.1.26 8:44
23.Feb   2020.2.23 13:12.  25.Jan   2020.1.25 9:53
22.Feb   2020.2.22 12:41.  24.Jan   2020.1.24 13:24
21.Feb   2020.2.21 11:14.  23.Jan   2020.1.23 15:25
20.Feb   2020.2.20 9:25.   22.Jan   2020.1.22 15:17
19.Feb   2020.2.19 8:54.   21.Jan   2020.1.21 15:17
18.Feb   2020.2.18 8:58     20.Jan   2020.1.20 13:56
17.Feb   2020.2.17 9:29     19.Jan   2020.1.19 14:53
16.Feb   2020.2.16 9:46     18.Jan   2020.1.18 10:01
15.Feb   2020.2.15 7:33     17.Jan   2020.1.17 9:11
14.Feb   2020.2.14 8:42     16.Jan   2020.1.16 12:01
13.Feb   2020.2.13 8:07     15.Jan   2020.1.15 14:26
12.Feb   2020.2.12 10:55  14.Jan   2020.1.14 13:00
11.Feb   2020.2.11 8:39     13.Jan   2020.1.13 13:08
10.Feb   2020.2.10 7:00     12.Jan   2020.1.12 15:06
9.Feb   2020.2.9 8:40     11.Jan   2020.1.11 12:01
8.Feb   2020.2.8 8:29     10.Jan   2020.1.10 8:00
7.Feb   2020.2.7 8:58      9.Jan   2020.1.9 13:36
6.Feb   2020.2.6 9:15      8.Jan   2020.1.8 8:23
5.Feb   2020.2.5 8:41      7.Jan   2020.1.7 11:56
4.Feb   2020.2.4 9:17      6.Jan   2020.1.6 11:56
3.Feb   2020.2.3 15:42      5.Jan   2020.1.5 14:19
2.Feb   2020.2.2 14:10      4.Jan   2020.1.4 17:18
1.Feb   2020.2.1 9:22      3.Jan   2020.1.3 11:50
                                           2.Jan   2020.1.2 12:53
                                           1.Jan   2020.1.2 17:46
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« Last Edit: April 21, 2020, 08:03:12 pm by Minimua »

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Re: Viral test each 6 months, Is it undetectabel btw 6 months?
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2020, 09:51:55 pm »
Hiya,

You're VL has been suppressed on all 4 dates listed and, your most recent result remains suppressed. No reason to doubt it, that's the result.

Taking your meds a few hours each way will not make any difference with Genvoya, The vast majority of your variations you mentioned falls within that and, changing the times you take your meds daily to a new routine will not make any difference.

However, for your own routine, best practice and to prevent potentially missing any doses in the future I would recommend trying to keep to near enough the exact time daily.

Try to pick a time that suits, set an alarm on your phone, have spare meds with you like in a key fob (Key Chain Drug Container) for on the go. 
https://www.poz.com/basics/hiv-basics/hiv-treatment-adherence

If you are really worried then talk to your doctor about your recent VL result.

Jim
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Offline Minimua

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Re: Viral test each 6 months, Is it undetectabel btw 6 months?
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2020, 10:02:46 pm »
Thank You for reply :)

I'm sorry there is One more thing, What is the half-life of the medicine? (Genvoya)
I know the biktarvy has 30 hours half-life. But I can't find Genvoya's Half-Life.

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Re: Viral test each 6 months, Is it undetectabel btw 6 months?
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2020, 10:32:28 pm »
You're welcome.

These kinds of questions/concerns are not uncommon and that's understandable. I part of it for some people is it's their first manageable illness requiring daily meds.

Anyhow, I've added a few threads with similar questions or concerns as an example.
Plenty more threads on the topic of taking meds on time though. 

Adherence?
https://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=71153.msg

Adherence
https://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=73377.msg

https://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=64111.msg

Time Change and Medication
https://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=67978.msg

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I'm sorry there is One more thing, What is the half-life of the medicine? (Genvoya)

Most product information pages/publications will contain some information on pharmacokinetics, unless you are looking for more in-depth info?

https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2015/207561s000lbl.pdf
https://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/product/5063/smpc
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Re: Viral test each 6 months, Is it undetectabel btw 6 months?
« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2020, 07:20:47 pm »
From what I've been told by my health care team, daily dosing is fine for daily medications.

Pharmacies are good sources of information.

If we look back at the end of the eighties and early nineties there were medications being taken up to four times daily, or regimens where some of your medications had to be taken with food and others on empty stomachs...

If you're on a medication with no particular food requirements and only daily dosing then relax.

 Have a spare with you for times when you forget and get in a routine.

PS. For all practical purposes a VL of 40 is undetectable.

Offline Minimua

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Re: Viral test each 6 months, Is it undetectabel btw 6 months?
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2020, 02:03:51 pm »
My Last Test was UD / 1084,

I Use my medisafe with adherence, but I late somtimes take my Drug, "Genvoya"

SO,,,, I late my dose over 6 hours late 13 times during 3 months during test session, 18.02.2020. (late DEC/2019 ~ early MAR/2020)

I search ALL over the site or other site, I found Dr.Joel's tumblr blog saying present ARV has good tolerance and half-life, Taken with food is important than Timing.

So, Is it okay to late dose will be fine? I'M VERY NERVOUS........ :'( :'(

Also, I want to know this late dose will lead Blip between late dosing?

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Re: Viral test each 6 months, Is it undetectabel btw 6 months?
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2020, 03:59:06 pm »
Minimua:  You are and will continue to be fine taking you medications daily, whatever the time.  An dosage six hours late won't matter. People, on occasion, even miss a daily dosage and are fine.

As mentioned, today's antiretrovirals are very forgiving, when it comes to this sort of thing, since their half lives are longer than yesteryear's antiretrovirals. 

Your numbers are great!  Keep up the good work.
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Re: Viral test each 6 months, Is it undetectabel btw 6 months?
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2020, 04:47:26 pm »
Thank You Ptk3 :)

Is genvoya also today’s ARV too?

 


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