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Coronavirus test and VIH
« on: March 06, 2020, 09:38:23 am »
I'm totally devasted, that's why I need your help.
I'm a 20yo man. Exactly one month ago two prostitutes gave me a bj with a condom, but in doing so, I committed the imprudence of biting the buttocks of one of them, and I also bit the other one very softly on her breasts. As you know, those bites are not violent, but I have an acute bleeding problem in my gums (I realize of that every time I bite a fruit). I also touched the vagina of both of them for seconds. Anyway, that was ALL! At the end of the incident I went home very relaxed, until some hours after that I began to experience very rare muscle aches in the groin and in my hands, I also was feeling my lymph nodes hurting. Then I was very scared and went to the hospital to tell everything that happened. They naturally told me that I had no risk and that it was not necessary to even take a HIV test. I was still very nervous about these strange pains and went to another doctor and told me the same thing. Then I went to a third doctor and as I insisted so much he prescribed me the PEP "only for my peace of mind." I started the PEP within 50 hours of the incident. The muscular pains disappeared but I had very strong "punctures" in the bones that bothered me frequently. Those punctures have almost disappeared now and I was calming down. The problem is that now just in the 4th week of the incident I experienced a very mild but continuous sore throat every time I swallow, a very mild fever as well, and a herpes in my mouth (I had one about 3 months ago, maybe stress?). It is possible that each of these symptoms have some explanation by themselves not related to HIV? I can't believe what's going on. But I find it very strange that they have all happened at once at the same time almost. In two days I finish the PEP and I feel devastated and almost convinced that against all pronostics I have been infected with HIV, I am really devastated and need help, that's why I have written to you.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2020, 09:53:01 am by LouisJoseph »

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Re: Coronavirus test and VIH
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2020, 09:57:31 am »
Hiya,

Sorry to hear you have been feeling unwell and I hope you get better soon.
Regarding HIV relax and move on with your life!

Firstly, the issues the next day have nothing to do with HIV even if you had had an exposure. It takes longer for HIV to take hold, let alone and immune response to happen for someone to notice anything.

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The problem is that now just in the 4th week of the incident I experienced a very mild but continuous sore throat every time I swallow, a very mild fever as well, and a herpes in my mouth

Nothing to do with HIV from the concerned event.

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They naturally told me that I had no risk and that it was not necessary to even take a HIV test.

Correct, you had no HIV exposure from this event. Getting your penis sucked and touching her vagina is not an HIV risk to you and as for love bites, it's also not how HIV is transmitted. Unless you are Hannibal the cannibal and were actually eating chunks of them and drinking a few pints of blood there simply was no HIV risk and nothing to discuss.

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Then I went to a third doctor and as I insisted so much he prescribed me the PEP "only for my peace of mind."

I am not willing to pretend what you posted was a risk or that PEP/Testing is needed.

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almost convinced that against all pronostics I have been infected with HIV

You did not acquire HIV from the events/activities posted here, so HIV is not an issue for you unless you have had other sexual encounters not mentioned here.

Here's what you need to know to avoid HIV infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions. Consider starting PrEP going forward as an additional layer of protection against HIV

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as safe in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other easier to transmit STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

Kind regards

Jim

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« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2020, 10:44:37 am »
Thanks for the reply, Jim. I appreciate a lot to talk to someone who knows about the topic. I also think that those incidents were not HIV risk but the symptoms are making me crazy. And the herpes thing made me so depressed and sad, eventhough I had herpes 3 months ago due to stress or the cold weather, idk. And NO, I haven't had sex in like more than a year, plus it was with a girl who have been my only partner ever and she only had one sex partner (me) so this incident was the only incident... Due to the protocol of the hospital I will have to get tested for HIV 6 weeks after the "exposure" and then at 3 and 6th month after PEP. I have had episodes of hipocondria before with others illness and with actual and palpable symptoms which I hope this time is the same case. I've been living a torture. Sometimes I think that the only way to solve this fear is to convince myself that living with HIV is not the end of the world.

All I want is to forget this and move on with my life. If you can tell me something else to ease my mind with all your experience at this, it will be very appreciated!

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Re: Coronavirus test and VIH
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2020, 11:26:11 am »
Hiya,

Look I am sorry you are feeling unwell and about the stress, I do hope you feel better soon. However, it's not related to HIV from this event. To be blunt you could tell me your left testical & right arm fell off yet it would not change that it's not HIV from this event.

Work with your healthcare provider to treat whatever is making you sick instead of stressing about it and worrying about things it's not.

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Sometimes I think that the only way to solve this fear is to convince myself that living with HIV is not the end of the world.

Instead of allowing these irrational fear to control your thoughts and certain actions,  consider talking to a qualified therapist to help you cope.

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6th month after PEP

6 months post nPEP is about 25 years out of date even if you did have a risk.

I do wish you well but I am not in the position to entertain what you posted is a real HIV concern. It would undermine the HIV community and be unhelpful to you as well.

Best, Jim
« Last Edit: March 06, 2020, 11:30:40 am by Jim Allen »
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Re: Coronavirus test and VIH
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2020, 05:10:03 am »
Hello my friends. My question is simple: a coronavirus test can show if I'm VIH+? They're testing for COVID to everyone in the place I live and I was told that the test they're using is with blood extraction so I wonder if my VIH status can be shown there? I'm not VIH positive yet but I've been worried for a posible risk I had so I would like to be warned before that because I would like some discrection

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Re: Coronavirus test and VIH
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2020, 05:30:18 am »
What possible HIV risk?

Anyhow the only testing that will confirm HIV status is HIV testing, not COVID19 testing or any other tests.

I also moved your post as it's not an "Off-Topic" item. Any HIV or related questions should be posted in this one thread only. Thanks.

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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2020, 06:04:15 am »
I'm sorry, I just didn't know where to put my post.

The posible risk was an incident with two sex workers: they gave me a blowjob (with a condom), and I fingered one of them, I know that's not a risk but what scares me is that I bit the lips of one of them when kissing her and she stopped kissing me which makes me think the bite was hurting. The problem is that my gums are ALWAYS bleeding, always. So I start to panic at the next day and did all I could to make doctors give me PEP, so I started PEP even when the three docs I visited told me it wasn't needed. Anyway, it's really embarrasing to tell this story because looks like I'm totally crazy but basically since the next day of my encounter I've had symptoms which started with a so strange groin pain and lymph nodes pain that slowly disapeared. At 4th week I had horrible headches that started suddenly and lasted like 3 weeks then it also disapeared. It also started to appear some red dots on my skin (arms and chest) they're not numerous and very tiny but they appear and disapear within 2 days, something that I've never had before in my life. And the last symptom: burning eyes and heat in body (no fever, heat). So well, the encounteer with the prostitutes was at 8 Feb, and I had a VIH negative test the day I finished PEP which I know it counts nothing. I know that this is crazy and but anyone would be so worried in my situation, let's be honest.

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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2020, 06:28:31 am »
Hiya,

I'm sorry that you feel scared and, I hope you can put this behind you soon.

Whatever is making you feel unwell it's not HIV from this encounter as you did not acquire HIV from this encounter.  Talk to your healthcare provider and let them treat whatever is making you sick instead of this merry-go-round of testing & stress over non-existent HIV issues.

It's simple as explained by Doctors, Nurses and myself you factually had no HIV exposure, no HIV risk. You did not need to test, you did anyway and of course, the result was negative.

Finally, allowing you to continue posting your fears about non-existent exposures is not helping you. So out of kindness and, to encourage you to seek face to face support to help you cope with your thoughts, posting about non-existent HIV risks again will result in a ban from the forum.

Wishing you well.
Best, Jim

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« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2020, 01:07:07 pm »
I got a 5 a half months negative result for HIV, but I still have these strange symptoms like red dots with white head (mostly in neck and arms) and some weird feeling of dry mouth and eyes. This makes me so scared and confused. I also got some general blood tests and all came back in a perfectly normal range. I don't know what else to do. Should I test for the 6th month? I also have to say that I drank alcohol two days before the blood test. That may change something?

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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2020, 04:42:08 pm »
Hiya,

I'm sorry that you feel scared and, I hope you can put this behind you soon.

Whatever is making you feel unwell it's not HIV from this encounter as you did not acquire HIV from this encounter.  Talk to your healthcare provider and let them treat whatever is making you sick instead of this merry-go-round of testing & stress over non-existent HIV issues.

It's simple as explained by Doctors, Nurses and myself you factually had no HIV exposure, no HIV risk. You did not need to test, you did anyway and of course, the result was negative.

Finally, allowing you to continue posting your fears about non-existent exposures is not helping you. So out of kindness and, to encourage you to seek face to face support to help you cope with your thoughts, posting about non-existent HIV risks again will result in a ban from the forum.

Wishing you well.
Best, Jim

Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.

Jim


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