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I am really scared, if a nurse poked himself first with the vaccine needle before he gave it to my daughter, will she get infected just in case the nurse has it? Please reply.

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Re: so worried...could my daughter have gotten infected with hiv??
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2020, 04:42:22 am »
Hiya,

Please don't post in other people's threads, keep your thoughts and fears in this one thread going forward. Thank you.
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Re: so worried...could my daughter have gotten infected with hiv??
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2020, 05:04:28 am »
"what if"

A poke would not be an issue, besides, nurses are professionals and no nuse in their right mind would use a needle post stick injury simply because it would be blunt asides from any other concerns.

Now unless you saw the nurse pulling the needle from their own vains directly & immidatly before using it for your daughter this is just a bad case of "what ifs" without any factual basis. Also, modern hospitals or clinics would use single single-use syringes or autodestruct syringes.

Talk to the nurse if you're concerned, ask them if the used the needle themselves before hand to put your mind at ease if you must.
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Re: so worried...could my daughter have gotten infected with hiv??
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2020, 05:54:48 am »
Thank you For your time Jim,

I beleive I saw him poked himself in the arm and heard him "awww". Then he called us to move to the next table. It was my mistake why  I did not realize that before, only after it happened.

I do not remeber the nurse anymore, and i ldo not know if hes still working there. It happened 2 years ago. It just bothering me, because my daughter experienced cough and colds for 2 months and had swollen lyphnode on neck, her xray was clear. Cough and cold started december till january. Usually her cough and colds resolves quickly. I just suddenly remembered that incident, and I am scared.  She's also a little underweight for her age.

Thank you for your response.
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Re: so worried...could my daughter have gotten infected with hiv??
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2020, 05:58:16 am »
Right, so not an HIV concern and it seems you are overthinking things 2 years later. Sorry to hear that you have these fears but it's not a real world concern.

Keep working with your doctor if your daughter is feeling unwell and I hope she feels better soon.
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Re: so worried...could my daughter have gotten infected with hiv??
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2020, 06:23:23 am »
Thank you Jim, it's nice to talk to somebody. I could not eat and sleep lately, I always overthink when it comes to my family. Most of the time, to be honest, I googled symptoms in the internet and other possibilities. I read about needle transmission as high risk, and I suddenly remember that incident. Although her coughs and colds almost gone aside from few colds in the morning and few coughs to clear her throat it did not stop me to ask my self why it took so long, is her immune system bad, as she used to have coughs and colds for few days only. Her lympnode in her neck is still palpable and big and that I keep on thinking of that incident.

Thank you Jim.Thank you so much!


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Re: so worried...could my daughter have gotten infected with hiv??
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2020, 06:38:00 am »
You're welcome and I hope your daughter feels better soon.

The Internet can be a bad place for feeding fears, Look HIV can be transmitted through shared needles (syringes), this is mainly due to vacuum and injection of backwash quantity into the bloodstream, as in when people are using (abusing) drugs. 

This is not the case with a poke in the way you fear, that's if it even did happen. Try to put that incident behind you and focus on working with your doctor to treat your daughter.
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Re: so worried...could my daughter have gotten infected with hiv??
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2020, 03:51:15 pm »
Yes and the nformation i have read is drivng me crazy. I've read a website Avart that says about sharing needles even just under the layer of skin, fats or muscles. When the nurse poked himself with the vaccine needle for my daughter, it goes under his skin, even not directly into his vein, and the needle is thin and hollow board since its for injection... Theres a chance that it touches his blood... And then that needle is used to inject in my daughter.

Sorry, i woke up and bothered again.

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Re: so worried...could my daughter have gotten infected with hiv??
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2020, 04:09:21 pm »
Not an HIV concern. Sharing needles as in being a drug user is a concern, a poke is not and totally different situation, I'll be honest with you I doubt it even happened but even if it did I'm not concerned.  You are focusing on information out of context to find a risk that simply doesn't exist

Although, I appreciate that your daughter has been unwell I truly don't understand why your thoughts have jumped to HIV. try to focus on working with your doctor on treating your daughter instead of searching the internet for an HIV issue that doesn't exist.

I've had this conversation hundreds of times, it ends two ways, one is you let it go and focus on more realistic issues and concerns to help your daughter, the other is a slow decent into irrational panic.

As a fellow parent I understand however, put it behind you
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Re: so worried...could my daughter have gotten infected with hiv??
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2020, 04:34:01 pm »
Thanks for the reply Jim, I was fine awhile ago, then I woke up again thinking about it. It really happened Jim, as the needle was very thin and sharp. I thought about it after the incident 2 years ago. and I did not know how I i forget about it. And now, it made me think about the incident again because my daughter experienced this, which is usually resolves quickly. I think too much reading made me came up with hiv. I'm also reading other post and hollow board needle is risky. We have blood not just direcly from the vein, and i could be stuck in the needle after poking, not sure how fast it dries out but when it is injescted to my daughter, the vaccine is being pushed inside her, there might be a blood in ther.  I'm really scared.
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Re: so worried...could my daughter have gotten infected with hiv??
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2020, 04:46:47 pm »
Hiya

It's simple unless you watched the nurse pull the needle from their own vain and within one move stab your daughter it was not a HIV concern. Bit of blood from a poke unlikely and even if it did happen not an HIV concern.

Were not taking about sharing drug rigs whereby backwash is injected, or needle stick situation, this is utterly different so unless the above happened and it did not move on with your life.

I wish you both well but I'm not going to pretend what you posted is a realistic issue

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"what if"

A poke would not be an issue, besides, nurses are professionals and no nuse in their right mind would use a needle post stick injury simply because it would be blunt asides from any other concerns.

Now unless you saw the nurse pulling the needle from their own vains directly & immidatly before using it for your daughter this is just a bad case of "what ifs" without any factual basis. Also, modern hospitals or clinics would use single single-use syringes or autodestruct syringes.

I'm sorry you are stressing about this but it's to be frank irrational and you have better things to focus on right now.

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Re: so worried...could my daughter have gotten infected with hiv??
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2020, 12:36:20 am »
Thank you again for your answer,

May I ask, if needle stick is high risk but it did not inject the blood to you, this is the other way around, in  poke and there's blood
in the needle this one it is beeing injected instead.

Please help me understand.

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Re: so worried...could my daughter have gotten infected with hiv??
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2020, 04:05:37 am »
Hiya,

I'll do this from the top, but this is the last post on this topic.

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I beleive I saw him poked himself in the arm and heard him "awww". Then he called us to move to the next table. It was my mistake why  I did not realize that before, only after it happened.

I do not remeber the nurse anymore, and i ldo not know if hes still working there. It happened 2 years ago

HIV can be transmitted through shared needles (syringes), this is mainly due to vacuum and injection of backwash quantity into the bloodstream, (common).

In occupational settings (Hospitals), healthcare workers in certain situations may have risks with hollow needle injuries (highly rare), such as when changing needles and stabbing themselves whilst pulling out the needle from the patient.

However, sharp objects, in general, are not risks, HIV is too fragile to remain infectious on the surface of objects or outside the human body and these issues lack quantity to infect.

Hence, my assesment is unless you saw the nurse pull the needle from their own veins directly & immediately before stabbing your daughter with it, this is nothing more than a bad case of "what ifs" without any factual basis. Also, modern hospitals or clinics would use single single-use syringes or autodestruct syringes.

Consider the topic close, I do wish you well.


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I'll add, not part of the assessment I truly believe that the reason you did not realize it until 2 years after the event is that it did not happen the way you now think it did. To be frank, you don't sound like an idiot to me, and you seem to be a caring parent who is naturally worried because your daughter is ill. I've been there myself.

If you had watched the nurse attempt to reuse a needle it would not take you two years to realize it, also I doubt you would let it happen and if it did you would have raised your concerns on the day.






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