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Author Topic: Insertive fellatio, protected (or not ) vaginal intercourse  (Read 1899 times)

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Insertive fellatio, protected (or not ) vaginal intercourse
« on: February 13, 2020, 10:35:57 pm »
Hello,
I had insertive fellatio from a CSW breifly followed by what I think was protected intercourse for about 20 minutes. The condom didn't fit all the way down I think it was just 3/4 way down my shaft. I didn't ejaculate inside her and was still erect when I pulled out. I then pulled off the condom (I think it was slightly rolled up but not exposing the head) it wasnt damaged. I'm worried that if at all my foreskin may have been exposed during intercourse but I could just be overthinking this. She then proceeded to suck my penis and use her hands to make me ejaculate for a few more minutes.

We did some deep kissing in the process too. I didn't really check to see if she had any bleeding in her mouth and didn't notice any traces on my penis. I some times have bleeding gums. 

About 12 hours later I was involved in unprotected sex with my wife. I'm terrified that if my encounter with the sex worker has infected me, I may have infected my wife who is breastfeeding at the moment. How are my chances looking for HIV?  It's only been 11 days and I'm panicking thinking i could ruin our babies life. Please help.

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Re: Insertive fellatio, protected (or not ) vaginal intercourse
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2020, 01:29:15 am »
Hiya,

You are overthinking certain aspects of this, prehaps it's guilt or something.

Kissing is not an issue, getting your penis is not an HIV risk, nobody has ever been infected that way and the condom being 3/4 down the shaft is not a concern either. HIV can't transmit through an intact latex or polyurethane condom. If a condom fails during the act of intercourse it's obvious to the insertive partner. All in all, there is no reason to be stressing about intercourse as long as this obvious issue did not happen.

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unprotected sex with my wife

Obvious perhaps, but nobody here is going to tell you unprotected sex is not an HIV risk to you. Unprotected intercourse with your partner would meet all the biological conditions needed for you to acquire HIV.

Now I don't judge couples that decide to engage in unprotected intercourse, it's often based on trust within a relationship or past test results. However, just note this trust or past results does not prevent HIV and any unprotected intercourse is simply accepting a possible risk towards you of acquiring HIV.

Test regularly for HIV and far easier to transmit STI's.

Here's what you need to know to avoid HIV infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions. Consider starting PrEP going forward as an additional layer of protection against HIV

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as safe in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other easier to transmit STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

Kind regards

Jim

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Re: Insertive fellatio, protected (or not ) vaginal intercourse
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2020, 07:18:26 am »
After removing the condom I used the same hand to rub on my penis (which she then proceeded to suck).Its may have had some fluid left on it from the condom. Could I have infected myself this way?  I'm just trying to eliminate the risks in this encounter.

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Re: Insertive fellatio, protected (or not ) vaginal intercourse
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2020, 07:27:27 am »
Hiya,

It's not an HIV risk, try to relax.

HIV is very limited in the way it can transmit, sexually it's only transmitted inside the confines of the human body. As an example during condomless intercourse

There are a number of reasons why what you fear is not risk including that HIV is fragile and the receptors needed to infect corrode once exposed outside the human body, fluids or being contact with sexual fluids once outside the confines of the human body would not be an HIV risk and nobody has ever been infected sexually the way you fear.

Jim

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Re: Insertive fellatio, protected (or not ) vaginal intercourse
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2020, 11:13:59 pm »
Thank you I am trying to relax after your msg. I haven't felt any symptoms 3 weeks after the encounter. However my wife has complained of a sore throat and coughing. Is infection (ie I infected her) even possible less than 12 hours after exposure? Or can I just rest this issue as coincidence and move on?

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Re: Insertive fellatio, protected (or not ) vaginal intercourse
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2020, 11:41:51 pm »
Hiya,

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Is infection (ie I infected her) even possible less than 12 hours after exposure?

No, and as explained the concerned incident was not an exposure.

Hiya,

You are overthinking certain aspects of this, prehaps it's guilt or something.

Kissing is not an issue, getting your penis is not an HIV risk, nobody has ever been infected that way and the condom being 3/4 down the shaft is not a concern either. HIV can't transmit through an intact latex or polyurethane condom. If a condom fails during the act of intercourse it's obvious to the insertive partner. All in all, there is no reason to be stressing about intercourse as long as this obvious issue did not happen.

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unprotected sex with my wife

Obvious perhaps, but nobody here is going to tell you unprotected sex is not an HIV risk to you. Unprotected intercourse with your partner would meet all the biological conditions needed for you to acquire HIV.

Now I don't judge couples that decide to engage in unprotected intercourse, it's often based on trust within a relationship or past test results. However, just note this trust or past results does not prevent HIV and any unprotected intercourse is simply accepting a possible risk towards you of acquiring HIV.

Test regularly for HIV and far easier to transmit STI's.

Here's what you need to know to avoid HIV infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions. Consider starting PrEP going forward as an additional layer of protection against HIV

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as safe in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other easier to transmit STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

Kind regards

Jim

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Re: Insertive fellatio, protected (or not ) vaginal intercourse
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2020, 08:29:34 am »
Hi Jim,
I seem to have spiraled back to worrying about this issue. I went to the clinic at 5weeks and 6 days mark after the incident (41 days). They only offered the 3rd generation blood drawn test and I had been suffering from parethesia two weeks prior to that. My elisa antibody test came back non reactive with a figure of 0.266.

Can I be sure that this is my status? I know you had said that I was not at risk from the said incident but the burning sensation in my feet got pretty bad. I was given some medication for the feet and it seems to have calmed down now. I was also told to stop drinking (which i was a lot due to the anxiety). I read somewhere that test results at 6 weeks rarely ever change, but can I be confident even if it was 3rd generation rather than the 4th. they also did a complete blood count and that showed mostly normal levels but just slightly lower lymphocytes (18.5 percent). and slightly higher neutrophils (72 percent). The doctor said that the blood counts seemed fine ragrdless.

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Re: Insertive fellatio, protected (or not ) vaginal intercourse
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2020, 09:58:22 am »
Mate, move on with your life!

might not sound like it but I am being to the point as much as I can out of kindness.

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about this issue
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Seriously, you had no HIV exposure, no issue, no test needed from the concerned incident. It's all irrational thoughts that I can't help you with.

The only ongoing HIV risk would be condomless intercourse with your wife. Accept it or not those are the facts and you can keep asking but that's the assessment you are going to get.

Jim

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Re: Insertive fellatio, protected (or not ) vaginal intercourse
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2020, 09:59:53 am »
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0.226 or 0.9 ... Meaningless, it's just background noise
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Re: Insertive fellatio, protected (or not ) vaginal intercourse
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2020, 01:39:41 am »
Thank you, I do appreciate your patience with this. I'll speak to the doctor at the next appointment and try rule out anything else that may have caused the burning feet (which hasnt ever happened before and google was probably the worst thing to do in that case)
Your original assessment was very helpful, I had a small window to test before the clinic became busy with Corona virus cases and so thought peace of mind even from the 3rd generation would be good (which is mainly why I wanted to know the dfference). Otherwise, I really think it's an amazing job you guys do on the forum. :)

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Re: Insertive fellatio, protected (or not ) vaginal intercourse
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2020, 02:23:48 am »
Hiya,

Appreciate what you are saying, although, I'm not willing to pretend or entertain that you required testing over activities that don't warrant testing, it would be a disservice to you and the HIV community if I did.

I am sorry to hear that you have been feeling unwell, I hope you feel better. Keep working with your healthcare provider and stop googling!.

To sum this up, the only potential exposure mentioned was sex with your partner. Now the 41-day test you took past this potential exposure will rarely ever change, however, you can repeat it 3 months for a conclusive result. That is presuming you have not had continued exposures.

If you continue to engage in condomless intercourse, just remember to test more frequently for HIV and far easier to acquire STI's.

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