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Offline Jagbag

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Potential exposure (oral/TS)
« on: February 05, 2020, 03:55:12 pm »
Hi there,

I had a (from what I understand) low risk exposure 10/11 days ago with a transgendered woman. She performed fellatio on me (which I understand to be no risk) and I on her briefly (which I understand to be a minute risk). I never engaged in any anal sex (protected or unprotected, receptive or insertive) and have never done so with any gender in the past.

Iíve been trying to avoid googling too much but my anxiety has gotten the better of me and Iíve come across a fair few anecdotes of where receptive fellatio has indeed resulted in a positive HIV result. My questions are:

1) I understand itís a minute/near negligible risk from what Iíve read on here and on Medhelp, but does it make a difference if there was ejaculation or not? For example, is the ďminuteĒ risk only where there is ejaculate in the mouth (among other factors)?

2) Again, I understand it only to be a risk where there are gaping, bleeding holes or wounds in the receivers mouth. There werenít any for me, I did notice a few cuts in the morning but again I understand that this is not an issue for my purposes. Therefore, in the absence of these wounds, can it be considered zero risk here also?

3) Perhaps itís not in your remit to answer this question but Iíve seen in various opinions that receptive oral presents a 10000/1 to risk of HIV and insertive a 20000/1 risk (Hook and Handsfield have both repeated this numerous times). Given that there have only been a handful of reported incidences of HIV for the former, and none for the latter, do you know where they have got these figures from? Iím been racking my brain trying to work out my odds but the sample sizes donít match up given that there would have been well over a million incidences of fellatio and such few reported incidences.

Many thanks in advance and my apologies for my ramblings.



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Re: Potential exposure (oral/TS)
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2020, 04:13:07 pm »
Hiya,

1)

Receiving a blowjob is no HIV risk to you whatsoever.  It lacks all the conditions required for acquiring HIV,  thus it makes sense that after nearly 40 years of this pandemic in terms of BJ's there hasnít been a single documented case of HIV transmission to an insertive partner (the person being "sucked") and you will not be the worlds first.

As for giving a blowjob, well, generally speaking, the mouth simply lacks route (Cells to infect) for HIV, and even if there was damage to your mouth (inside your mouth) as in gaping open sores like meth mouth creating a possible route than saliva & air also act to neutralize HIV by damaging the receptors needed to infect human cells.

All in all, giving a blowjob is such a minute concern with regards to HIV that we don't even recommend specifically testing over it. Just get tested whenever you are next normally due a routine check-up.

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2) Again, I understand it only to be a risk where there are gaping, bleeding holes or wounds in the receivers mouth. There werenít any for me, I did notice a few cuts in the morning but again I understand that this is not an issue for my purposes. Therefore, in the absence of these wounds, can it be considered zero risk here also?

With or without these issues, it's a near negligible risk so minute that your assessment is to "move on with your life!"

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Stats about things that have never happened in reality ... ::) Now, I've given you an assessment, not much more I can do for you.

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Many thanks in advance and my apologies for my ramblings.

You're welcome, stop reading nonsense online it will only continue to feed your fears. Move on with your life, use condoms for any intercourse no exceptions and test like every sexually active adult should at least yearly for HIV & STI's.

Here's what you need to know to avoid HIV infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions. Consider starting PrEP as an additional layer of HIV protection going forward

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as Ďsafeí in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

Kind regards

Jim

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Re: Potential exposure (oral/TS)
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2020, 04:29:15 pm »
Thank you for the expedient response Jim, itís very much appreciated. I feel like I know the answer to this already, but is your recommendation that I donít test for this specific incident and carry on my (safe) sex life as normal?

Youíre 100% right about the internet. I keep looking for posts for reassurance, and the vast majority provide it, but then I come across the odd example of where people say receptive fellatio did result in their positive test. But I need to ingrain it in my head that given the overwhelming scientific data proving otherwise, these people are either mistaken in their sexual recounts, not perhaps not divulging the entire story. After your response to this I will be steering clear of the internet for answers (other than to perhaps provide an update).

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Re: Potential exposure (oral/TS)
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2020, 04:46:26 pm »
You're welcome

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carry on my (safer) sex life as normal?

Small correction to your sentence in red, it's safer sex life, not safe. No such thing as "safe" sex considering other STI's, pregnancy and that in reality from time to time condoms do break.

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but is your recommendation that I donít test for this specific incident

Indeed, move on with your life.

Use condoms for any intercourse, consider talking to your healthcare provider about PrEP as an additional layer of HIV prevention and test at least yearly for STI's including but not limited to HIV.

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Youíre 100% right about the internet. I keep looking for posts for reassurance, and the vast majority provide it, but then I come across the odd example of where people say receptive fellatio did result in their positive test. But I need to ingrain it in my head that given the overwhelming scientific data proving otherwise, these people are either mistaken in their sexual recounts, not perhaps not divulging the entire story. After your response to this I will be steering clear of the internet for answers (other than to perhaps provide an update).

Yeah... Look overall stop reading stories and mistaking them for facts or thinking it applies to you. I've seen claims of toilet seats, aliens and handshakes but it does not make them true or applicable to every bright light you see at night.

Thankfully stories are just stories, not facts and, there are many reasons why someone would rather not admit to exposure, or simply incorrectly dismiss a real risk without realizing it. Factoring into stories is that being newly diagnosed is difficult enough time on its own, for some its a time of struggling with a deep fear of HIV stigma, social judgment, Isolation & self-stigma and things like sexuality, religion, family, sexual relationships etc might play a role asides from legal fears for some.   

Jim


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Re: Potential exposure (oral/TS)
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2020, 09:28:00 am »
Hi Jim

For my peace of mind, I went ahead and got tested 9 weeks after exposure and the results came back negative. Thank you very much for your reassuring messages during this quite difficult time for me. I hope youíre keeping well.

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Re: Potential exposure (oral/TS)
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2020, 09:49:16 am »
You're welcome

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I went ahead and got tested 9 weeks after exposure and the results came back negative.

You had no HIV exposure, no need for any drama.

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