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In dire need of advise
« on: November 26, 2019, 06:04:52 pm »
I made these horrible mistakes in my life...i've had sex with for different sex workers..now i am in living hell..would someone please help me

day 1
i had sex with a sex worker with condom on..she gave me unprotected oral..i felt a little pain from her teeth..i told her to stop..then i put the condom on and we had sex..i didnt ejaculate..the condom was on till the end..then i went to wash and felt no cut or wound on my genital
we did kiss and i did suck her tongue a little
i had a slight crack on my upper lips

day 2
i had sex with a sex worker..she gave me a brief oral..and we had sex with condom on..i ejaculated in the condom..the condom was on till the end

day 3
i had sex with a sex worker..no oral..little kisses..and protected sex..i ejaculated in the condom..upon withdrawal..i saw blood below her ass..it was her period blood..the condom was intact till the end

day 4
sex worker gave me oral..then we had protected sex..i ejaculted in her..upon withdrawal..the condom was missing..i went to the toiler to pee and came back i saw the condom on the bed..i took the condom to the toilet and filled it with a little water..and i saw my semen in it..she did a hiv test few days later and she's negative


i've been on PEP for 3 weeks now..What are the likelihood of me catching hiv

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Re: In dire need of advise
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2019, 06:58:10 pm »
Firstly, I removed your response to another individual in another "Am I Infected?" forum thread, since only moderators can respond to individuals who pose questions in the "Am I Infected?" forum (for quality assurance reasons).

In regard to your situation in this thread, since you did not engaged in unprotected vaginal sex with your female commercial sex worker, you are not at risk for HIV-infection.

Receiving unprotected oral sex is not a risk for HIV-transmission, but could be a risk for other STD's/STI's.

In addition, though unnecessary if the incidents in your post are the only activities about which you are concerned, you are on PEP, which is enormously effective (if you had been at risk, which you were not).

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Re: In dire need of advise
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2019, 08:06:54 pm »
I am sorry about replying the other members post..was just really curious the outcome of my results..

i consulted a doctor online about the last csw..he said that as the condom came off..my penis might be in contact with the vaginal fluid..and i am at high risk for that..

secondly..
with the 1st csw..i had cracked underlips and it was bleeding a little the day before..i sucked her tongue..am i..vulnerable for a hiv infection?

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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2019, 10:40:41 pm »
Pls help me..I have been dying worrying about this every day

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Re: In dire need of advise
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2019, 10:47:43 pm »
If it's not clear when the condom came off during your vaginal sex (I presumed, since semen was in the condom, that it came off after you withdrew your penis from the CSW's vaginal canal), your healthcare provider is acting with an abundance of caution (which is fine, of course).

In any case, you are on PEP, which is enormously effective.

HIV is not transmitted through kissing, regardless of cracked lips or whether you sucked the CSW's tongue.

Continue your PEP regimen and work with your healthcare provider until you are assured that you have taken an HIV-antibody test that is conclusive.

You may wish to consider getting a healthcare adviser who is not online who can help you (i.e., see a healthcare provider in person).

Most experts advise testing six weeks after the potentially risky encounter, then at 13 weeks past for confirmation of the six-week results.

I think the odds are highly unlikely that you contracted the HIV from the encounter you describe (if there had been a moment of unprotected sex), and that minuscule chance is drastically reduced further with a proper PEP regimen.

In other words, I fully expect that any HIV-antibody test you take will be conclusively negative for HIV-antibodies as a result of the activities you have described in your post.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2019, 10:50:53 pm by Ptrk3 »
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Re: In dire need of advise
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2019, 07:25:59 am »
The reason you can't post anymore is you have used up all your free messages. There is also nothing more to possibly add from our side to the assessment, except for a comment on the water testing that I will do now for you.

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upon withdrawal..the condom was missing.

Out of everything you posted this was the only minute possible HIV concern, and generally speaking, slipping out of the condom whilst withdrawing is not an HIV concern to the insertive partner, I would not even recommend stressing about it as the insertive partner.

Test for peace of mind if you must but then move on with your life.

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took the condom to the toilet and filled it with a little water.

Stop testing condoms with water, it's paranoid behaviour.

If you test the condom before you use it this can weaken the condom, making it more likely to break during use. So don't and, also never test a condom after you use it, at best you are just exposing yourself to easier to acquire infections by messing about with it. Instead, immediately dispose of the condom in the bin.

Testing the condom after intercourse also does not tell you anything, it could damage the condom, as its not designed as a reusable product and this could lead you to mistakenly think that the condom was damaged during sex, when in fact you actually caused the damage after the intercourse by trying to "test" it with water. In short, testing the condom yourself before or after use is not a reliable way to tell you anything.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid HIV infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions. Consider starting PrEP as an additional layer of HIV protection going forward

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as ‘safe’ in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

More information on HIV Basics, PEP, TaSP and Transmission can be found through the links in my signature to our POZ pages

Kind regards

Jim

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Re: In dire need of advise
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2020, 09:51:29 am »
Hi there,
Its been about 14 weeks from my last exposure and 10weeks post pep..
I really need some advise....on these timelines of events
On the 28th day after my exposure and 27th day of pep..the hiv doctor got my to test a rapid 4th gen alere hiv combo and eclia 4th gen lab test at the hospital..the
rapid was finger prick..both was negative..

Then on the 12 week after my exposure and 8 week after pep I did another finger prick 4th gen at the hospital again it was negative..

Today @14week post exposure..and 10week post pep I did a 3rd gen rapid test at home and it was negative..

Are these results conclusive..please spare your time assessing this..

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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2020, 09:59:34 am »
I don't even understand why you are taking PEP.

You had no real-world exposure and hence no need to test certainly no need for PEP. Anyhow continued testing is going to yield the same negative result unless you have had real and ongoing exposures not mentioned here.

Move on with your life already, continue to use condoms for any intercourse, no exceptions and test out of standard routine at least yearly.

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Out of everything you posted this was the only minute possible HIV concern, and generally speaking, slipping out of the condom whilst withdrawing is not an HIV concern to the insertive partner, I would not even recommend stressing about it as the insertive partner.

Test for peace of mind if you must but then move on with your life.
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Re: In dire need of advise
« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2020, 10:58:55 am »
Hi jim,
Please allow me to explain..I was prescribed pep by the doctor and said I had a risk..but not high and he also said I can take it..just to be sure..so..given the state of mind I was in..terrified and devastated..I took it..

I need to ask you...if my results are conclusive and if I need further testing..im sorry for bugging you with this..its been the worst 3 mths of my life

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Re: In dire need of advise
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2020, 11:18:24 am »
Trust me I've already answered.

Stop taking pills when you don't need them, less panic and stress or drama over nothing, learn to worry about your real risks and consider PrEP not PEP as an additional layer of protection if you need peace of mind going forward.
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Re: In dire need of advise
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2020, 10:45:32 pm »
Hi jim..
With all due respect to you..I wasn't being dramatic..I was honestly just worried and scared..I will certainly remember well and follow what you mentioned..I've learned my lesson well..

I need to ask you..would pep suppress the p24 antigen of the virus?I've seen some information online that may delay antibodies..but I cant find any info on the antigen

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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2020, 01:45:05 am »
Hiya,

It is a drama and stress over nothing. Put this behind you already and move on with your life.

Anyhow, yes would be the answer to your question. The P24 HIV-1 test added to the most duo test is nice and may pick up on infections early however levels also drop off fast and for good reason as example p24 testing is generally not a standalone screening.


« Last Edit: February 12, 2020, 02:02:13 am by Jim Allen »
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