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Author Topic: Question about restrictions on job opportunities  (Read 2451 times)

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Offline fabio

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Question about restrictions on job opportunities
« on: November 03, 2019, 07:08:01 am »
Hello guys,I am really wondering:is there any danger to working in a profession being hiv positive?
I am asking this in an attempt to give nursing a chance. I wanted to be a nurse ever since was in high school and when I became hiv positive started having doubts. Do you know of any complications in certain professions like nursing?

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Re: Question about restrictions on job opportunities
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2019, 09:09:23 am »
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Question about restrictions on job opportunities

Restrictions depend and vary per nation, as for example -  In Span simply living with HIV means a restriction on even becoming a Taxi Driver ...  leftover irrational fears & laws  ::) In the UK, on the other hand, the ban on healthcare workers living with HIV was lifted and replaced with some guidelines on exposure-prone procedures.  They are required to inform the employer &  to go on a register to be monitored every three months.

Unless anyone happens to know about restrictions in your nation, I would recommend checking with the local HIV Org to find out what work restriction if any might exist. Hope that at least points you in the right direction.

Jim

UK

https://www.gmc-uk.org/

HIV-infected healthcare workers and exposure prone procedures
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/hiv-infected-healthcare-workers-and-exposure-prone-procedures

https://www.nursinginpractice.com/ban-lifted-hiv-infected-healthcare-staff

Spain reference
https://eiuperspectives.economist.com/sites/default/files/Living%20with%20HIV%20Challenges%20in%20Spain's%20HIV%20management.pdf

"ďMaybe HIV is a little less stigmatised, but there is still much institutionalised
discrimination in Spain,Ē says Professor Lazarus, noting that current laws prohibit
jobs in the police force, fire service, military and taxi driving ranks to those with the
virus"
« Last Edit: November 03, 2019, 09:21:31 am by Jim Allen »
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Re: Question about restrictions on job opportunities
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2019, 09:24:27 am »
Restrictions depend and vary per nation, as for example -  In Span simply living with HIV means a restriction on even becoming a Taxi Driver ...

Unbelievable  :o what about people with say HBV or HCV then? They canít be taxi drivers as well?

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Re: Question about restrictions on job opportunities
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2019, 09:36:14 am »
Unbelievable  :o what about people with say HBV or HCV then? They canít be taxi drivers as well?

David originally brought it to my attention last year when he was writing an article on HIV/Aids. ill have to ask him but I think it relates to regulations on "contagious illness" and although HIV is not contagious merely communicable many illnesses including HIV get lumped under this outdated rule. 

http://naukas.com/2018/04/12/vihsida-avanza-la-ciencia-y-la-conciencia/

Translated from his publication "People living with the virus suffer discrimination when receiving medical attention or at their own work. Even today in Spain it is not possible to work in the state security forces, as a prison officer or even as a taxi driver (Madrid)"
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Re: Question about restrictions on job opportunities
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2019, 10:44:59 am »
That is just plain awful. Idk what happens in Greece with this topic,I wish I can get into nursing.
I will try to ask my doc as well.
Thanks for replying.

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Re: Question about restrictions on job opportunities
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2019, 03:29:19 pm »
Out of interest do keep us posted if you find out what the story is in Greece. Hopefully, it's grand and not a barrier to your desire to become a nurse. If it is we will have to protest somehow for you  ;)   

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Re: Question about restrictions on job opportunities
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2019, 08:48:33 pm »
Certainly I haven't found anything on the internet. It doesn't seem to be much of an issue,but considering the way i was treated when they prepared me for surgery,it was quite depressive,since they were on bio hazard gear (and all they did was transfer me to the theatre and go),which even my mom who was new to the whole hiv thing couldn't believe the nonsense.
There was also one incident where a blokes boss fired him from the clothe store because the other employees were scared of contamination from the toilets (it was proven he was undetectable and posed no threat). After he got fired he went public about it and sued them,and the judges (who are shitty old Greek guys full of misinformation) backed up the store owner and the guy was left unpaid and got humiliated (even though having your hiv revealed to the whole personal and getting fired for this condition is illegal in the whole damn eu and by extension Greek constitution).
Let's not mention the brutal death of an hiv positive activist who was killed trying to go out of a jewlery store whose death was attributed to "damage from antiretroviral heart attack" when he clearly was kicked in the head by the owner and the worker ,plus was beaten to death after that by the pigs.
« Last Edit: November 03, 2019, 08:51:46 pm by fabio »

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Re: Question about restrictions on job opportunities
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2019, 08:54:31 pm »
Whatever happens though I am gonna check that,and if I can go for it I will do it and update you on it.

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Re: Question about restrictions on job opportunities
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2019, 09:13:43 pm »
I struggle with work, I am not a nurse but do live outside my country of birth and work international. Most companies require a medical with full blood work. I am self employed with no employment protection.
All depends on where you live and work.

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Re: Question about restrictions on job opportunities
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2019, 12:07:11 am »
I struggle with work, I am not a nurse but do live outside my country of birth and work international. Most companies require a medical with full blood work. I am self employed with no employment protection.
All depends on where you live and work.

Iím an expat and the company I work for runs yearly routine blood works (I think all the companies do here in Thailand). Luckily for me, that doesnít include HIV for now.

Fabio, donít give up! Are there nurses unions in Greece? Do you think they may help with the information?

Hugs

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Re: Question about restrictions on job opportunities
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2019, 02:21:45 am »
I work for my local Nurses U job in Australia. I'll find.out if they have any contacts in the Greek Nurses Union.

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Re: Question about restrictions on job opportunities
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2019, 03:02:59 am »
That's right! A nurses union,I can email them and ask if anything is possible.
Dave,I hope you get the chance to find the best job you desire. It's a shame when some countries have proven transmission is impossible and others stigmatize everyone out of spite.
Thailand seems really restrictive,but thankfully you won't have to reveal your status,hope the best for you too Mindless.
I didn't know you were a Australian Harley 😁,I heard becoming a nurse there is way difficult (having to renew the license every 2 years). Thank you so much for being helpful 😊.

Offline harleymc

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Re: Question about restrictions on job opportunities
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2019, 11:31:44 pm »
Fabio, I tried at work, but we don't seem to have a contact with the Greek Nurses Union.  :(.   You'll need to give them a try yourself.

Good Luck

Offline fabio

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Re: Question about restrictions on job opportunities
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2019, 06:02:01 am »
I did write them an email,but they don't seem to answer. My docs might actually know what's going on with this.
Thank you for trying

 


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