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Wounds and Oral and Symptom question
« on: October 31, 2019, 08:20:04 am »
Dear all,

Can someone help me with your knowledge.

I have 3 questions.

1.   Is Oral giving with maby 1 shot sperm in mouth a risk? I have giving head to a man and he directly come so I was to late to pushback.
After 1 hit in my mouth I hit im back and he ejaculate on the ground. But I taste a bitter taste and slicked it directly when it was on my tongue.
What are the chances? And please explain me is the risk ridiculous small or small or low or what?

2.   Therefore 6 hours before the act I have shaved my legs. Right from my knee I had a wound because the shaving. It was blooding I saw that. Then I take a shower and sit on my couch.
After 6 hours was the act begin. Is there a risk maby my wound on his wound? Because he was lying on me. So maby he had a wound that hits my wound? Is this a risk? Or is this also ridiculous because the wound was healing. At the act I didn’t see blood or something anywhere. But didn’t check it to much.

3.   Now after 10 days I have only a strange feel on my  esophagus. It started 2 days a go and its taken away now. But I read something about candida by HIV patients. I have a weired feeling by slicking food.
Is candida a primair HIV symptom or a symptom that comes a lot of period later because hiv?


Thank you all.

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Re: Wounds and Oral and Symptom question
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2019, 09:10:18 am »
Hiya,

Giving a blowjob (Regardless of spitting or not) generally speaking, the mouth simply lacks route (Cells to infect) for HIV, and even if there was damage to your mouth creating route than saliva neutralize HIV by damaging the receptors needed to infect human cells.

All in all, giving a blowjob is such a minute concern with regards to HIV that we don't even recommend specifically testing over it. Just get tested whenever you are next normally due a routine check-up.

Q2 - No HIV risk

Q3 - No & No

Candida overgrowth is the most common, so much so that nearly all people will experience it at some stage in life regardless of HIV status. Now you can't self-diagnosis Candida overgrowth so if you feel unwell simply see your GP and let them treat whatever is making you sick instead of feeling sick.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid HIV infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions. Consider starting PrEP as an additional layer of HIV protection going forward

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as ‘safe’ in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

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Re: Wounds and Oral and Symptom question
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2019, 01:27:39 pm »
Hi Jim or others,

I dont know if I can start this topic, but its not the same of my old topic. It is again about Oral ( I know you get a lottt of questions about this).

My questions is:
I know that Jim and other English sites says : Oral is only a theorical risk. There are maby a few cases in descades. And Jim says Always no test required. Even with swallow cum.

But in the Netherlands there is a site where you can ask your medical questions. The same question I asked there. And i get this info.

Its true that oral is low till zero risk. But when you deep throath or swallow sperm, than the risk increase. They say this:

Saliva forms a good barrier against the HIV virus. That is why the chance of an HIV infection during oral sex is rather small. Exception to this are: Deep throat blowjobs and sperm swallowing, because you will then pass the saliva barrier. The risk of an HIV infection is then somewhat higher.


I cant believe this. I think the sperm in my case a little bit is first in contact with saliva on your tongue before you slick it. So the virus must be dead at that time?


Can someone help me?


Thanks a lot.


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Re: Wounds and Oral and Symptom question
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2019, 01:49:17 pm »
I already gave you a risk assessment based on all that. Since you are reading from a Dutch site ill be happy to answer in Dutch. I could also manage to do it in Frisian although I doubt a Dutch site would even respect the 2nd language of the state  ;)

Mijn advies blijft dat de kans om HIV opgelopen te hebben van een keer iemand pijpen is zo zeer klein dat wij niet eens aanraden om te gaan testen. HIV is zeer kwetsbaar en speeksel + lucht zijn beiden schadelijk voor HIV, daarnaast zonder schade zoals open wonden heeft de keel simpleweg de cellen niet om geinfectereerd to worden

Minder paranoďde onzin lezen en ga door met je leven!

Om HIV te voorkomen blijf condooms gebruiken voor sex (Neuken) geen uitzonderingen en laat je regelmatig testen op soa’s en hiv, minstens jaarlijks! Je kunt ook PrEP voor de toekomst overwegen als een extra laag bescherming tegen HIV.
« Last Edit: November 04, 2019, 08:07:52 pm by Jim Allen »
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Re: Wounds and Oral and Symptom question
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2019, 10:22:10 am »
Ok guys I have a question.

1. Does ARS always show op between 2-4 weeks?
2. Im been on week 8 can I tested and closs this chapter?
Its a 4 gen test.
3. What are the risks of HIV by giving a blowjob with and without ejaculation in mouth?

I know you will say oral is never a risk. But the main question is can ars start on week 8?

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Re: Wounds and Oral and Symptom question
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2019, 01:24:29 pm »
1.

The vast majority of people have no initial symptoms or none noticeable whatsoever and since the lack or presence of symptoms means nothing in terms of HIV status the only when to know outside of routine screening post a risk is by testing.

You, however, had no risk from what you posted at least that would warrant testing

2.

You had no real risk to test for in the first place and if you had any approved blood-drawn test at 6+ weeks post-exposure is highly unlikely to change, 3 months remains definite.

Although, getting back the context is you had no real risk to test over, relax, move on with your life and simply test out of standard routine whenever next normally due.

3.

Asked and answered already.

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I know you will say oral is never a risk.

I never said that in either language. Oral covers a lot of different delightful sins, some a risk and others not.

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Mijn advies blijft dat de kans om HIV opgelopen te hebben van een keer iemand pijpen is zo zeer klein dat wij niet eens aanraden om te gaan testen. HIV is zeer kwetsbaar en speeksel + lucht zijn beiden schadelijk voor HIV, daarnaast zonder schade zoals open wonden heeft de keel simpleweg de cellen niet om geinfectereerd to worden

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Giving a blowjob (Regardless of spitting or not) generally speaking, the mouth simply lacks route (Cells to infect) for HIV, and even if there was damage to your mouth creating route than saliva neutralize HIV by damaging the receptors needed to infect human cells.

All in all, giving a blowjob is such a minute concern with regards to HIV that we don't even recommend specifically testing over it. Just get tested whenever you are next normally due a routine check-up.

Jim
« Last Edit: December 12, 2019, 01:27:28 pm by Jim Allen »
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