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Offline dipusaja825

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really confused about transmission
« on: August 12, 2019, 12:18:34 pm »
Hello all,

I will keep my story short.

I am from India 31 yrs old man ... I am due to get married in Nov.. well, I had a trip to Thailand for a trip with my friends ... I did not have any vaginal or anal intercourse.. btw I got tested for all stds and hiv in Feb 2019.. all was okay.. now, I had couple of insertive oral episodes with some massage therapist... after reading similarthreds here I got an understanding that it is no risk.. but recently I came across some posts where people claim that I got Hiv by getting sucked.. infact the other forum in this website, one guy was claiming other day that he got it buy getting sucked.. now I qm bit concerned... is it like we are not sure about it.. kind of in a off mood situation..

It will be really nice if u guys advice me here..

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Re: really confused about transmission
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2019, 12:27:38 pm »
Hiya,

You seem to be reading stories online and, seemingly incorrectly thinking stories apply to you as facts, let me address a few other none-sense claims you might find online.  You are not at risk from sitting on toilet seats, shaking hands, sneezing, door knobs, cat's, dogs, using public phone boxes, watching porn on the internet, aliens from outer space, or eating food prepared by people living with HIV etc

Getting your penis sucked lacks all the conditions required for acquiring HIV,  thus it makes sense that after nearly 40 years of this pandemic in terms of BJ's there hasn’t been a single documented case of HIV transmission to an insertive partner (the person being "sucked") and you will not be the worlds first.

As for getting married in Nov congrats, just keep the below in mind

If you have been or are planning to engage in unprotected intercourse with your partner this would as example meet all the biological conditions needed for acquiring HIV.

Now I don't judge couples that decide to engage in unprotected intercourse, its often based on trust within a relationship, however just note this trust or faith does not prevent HIV and any unprotected intercourse is simply accepting a possible risk to you of acquiring HIV.

Test regularly, understand the risks.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions. Consider starting PrEP as an additional layer of HIV protection going forward

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as ‘safe’ in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

More information on HIV Basics, PEP, TaSP and Transmission can be found through the links in my signature to our POZ pages, this includes information on HIV Testing

Kind regards

Jim

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Re: really confused about transmission
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2019, 12:41:34 pm »
Thanks Jim.

Well, sitting on toilet seat is not similar as getting oral I think as there have been debates on this.

Yes, it has never been documented... does this mean that guys claiming that they got it by getting oral has no foundation or is it people dont investigate those..

Sorry just a follow-up for little more understanding.

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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2019, 01:03:51 pm »
Sitting on the toilet seat is the same as it equally lacks the conditions required for transmission of HiV . All those myths fall flat for similar reasons.

Do they investigate all claims, no. What a waste of time nowadays that would be, it's the most studied virus in human history, we understand what biological conditions are required for the transmission of HIV even to be theoretical.  Would a doctor like to take the opportunity to document worlds first if they were presented with a credible case, well absolutely it just does not happen.

Stories are stories, not facts and, there are many reasons why someone would rather not admit to exposure, or simply incorrectly dismiss a real risk without realizing it or not disclose a true exposure or admit the full truth. In addition, being newly diagnosed is difficult enough time on its own, for some its a time of struggling with a deep fear of HIV stigma, social judgment & self-stigma but also things like sexuality, religion, family, sexual relationships etc come into play as well and for others even legal fears.

It's nice to have a story but it does not make it fact, so stop reading stories mistaking them as fact, next you will be asking about ET or the next-door neighbour cat as yes people continue to blame the cat 😂

Let me put it to you like this, if the situation has been instead of getting your penis sucked you had gone out and given some guy a blowjob instead, I would be telling you that giving a blowjob is a near negligible risk and to move on with your life.

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Re: really confused about transmission
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2019, 06:30:25 am »
Well, I have read in other posts as well where you spoke about the 'biological condition'.

Now, if bleeding gums or sores inside mouth can be considered as the condition ? may be ur response will be same- saliva has dozen of proteins that neutralize the virus. I was reading other day that saliva can partially damage hiv.. now is it like some virus us still available for transmittion given this biological condition.

Not sure about this at all... bit anxious.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: really confused about transmission
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2019, 07:10:22 am »
Yes there are multiple biological barriers to this being a HIV risk, saliva is only part of it as saliva damages the receptors leaving HIV unable to infect. Bleeding gums and trace fluids are common during this act and not a HIV concern

Look If you had stabbed her in the face requiring urgent medical care or beat her to a bloody plup requiring urgent medical care and instead of calling an ambulance as she was pissed blood out of her face, you stuck your penis in her face .... Than maybe in theory.

Unless that type of extreme event happened to overcome / meet the conditions required you simply had no HIV risk from getting a blowjob.
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