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Author Topic: CD4 % stable long time but jumped recently. Why?  (Read 770 times)

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Offline xasxas

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CD4 % stable long time but jumped recently. Why?
« on: June 12, 2019, 09:37:06 am »

Sorry if I am being a hypochondriac.

I have had HIV for six or seven years now and my numbers are typically stable and fairly good.  i.e. CD4 count usually around 1,000 and CD4 % at 40%. 

However, my last blood test showed my CD4 % jumped to 48% while the CD4 count remained stable.  My doctor didn't notice (or at least didn't mention it) when I consulted with him.

Is this a cause for concern or possibly a symptom of some other potential problem? 

Thanks in advance for any feedback.

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Re: CD4 % stable long time but jumped recently. Why?
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2019, 09:49:42 am »
From 35% to 65% would even be average under the HIV negative population. The % is more stable over a trend, this does not however mean it does not naturally go up & down.

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Offline Gladragsguy

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Re: CD4 % stable long time but jumped recently. Why?
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2019, 09:58:24 am »
It's not really a jump...the numbers can fluctuate for many ordinary reasons from the time of day to diet to a slight cold.  And as the % went up (something many here might envy)..relax and have a nice pizza as a treat. Enjoy.

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Re: CD4 % stable long time but jumped recently. Why?
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2019, 10:00:26 am »
The cd4 count is NOT a measure of "health". It's simply a measure of the quantity of cd4s. While the general thinking is that the more cd4s you have the more your immune system should be working, there is no way to measure how effective your cd4s/immune system is working. Quite a number of people are very healthy with 300-500 cd4s while people with 1000 cd4s can still be unhealthy.  As long as your cd4 is above 200 you are out of the danger zone of having an opportunistic disease.

according to HRSA measurements, if you sustain over 500 cd4s and UD for 2 yrs, you can simply stop having cd4s tests. That's how little the cd4 count means to your HIV treatment.
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Offline xasxas

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Re: CD4 % stable long time but jumped recently. Why?
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2019, 10:02:09 am »
Thanks for the replies.  Seems like I am worried for nothing.

Offline MadDog125

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Re: CD4 % stable long time but jumped recently. Why?
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2019, 07:29:06 pm »
Guy your numbers are well in the normal range.  Don't worry be happy.😊
DX 28DEC17, cd4 112, VC 63000
13FEB18, cd4 215, VC 156
14MAY18, cd4 260, VC 31
23AUG18, cd4 298, VC 61
03OCT18, cd4 300, VC 35
21NOV18, cd4 259, VC <20
18JAN19, cd4 284, VC 24
17APR19, cd4 157, VC <20
24MAY19, cd4 340, VC <20
12AUG19, cd4 304, VC 51
30DEC19, cd4 385, VC <20


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