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Author Topic: "Hospital in hot water over HIV case " - news from Thailand  (Read 1118 times)

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Offline terrymoore

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and then this happened....
https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general/1675608/hospital-in-hot-water-over-hiv-case

Hospital in hot water over HIV case Bumrungrad admits transfusion the cause

The Thai Red Cross Society confirmed on Friday that its procedures for collecting and dispensing blood are in line with global standards, as fears of HIV/Aids being accidentally transmitted by the organisation have skyrocketed in the wake of a disclosure by a leading hospital in Bangkok. Bumrungrad International Hospital issued a statement on Thursday claiming one of its patient had become infected with the...




Offline terrymoore

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Re: "Hospital in hot water over HIV case " - news from Thailand
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2019, 11:31:34 pm »
Not sure if this is the right place to share...
It is the most popular private hospital in Bangkok.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general/1675608/hospital-in-hot-water-over-hiv-case

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Re: "Hospital in hot water over HIV case " - news from Thailand
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2019, 08:08:57 am »
Sounds like a bad luck case without any operational error. I love my ID doctor at Bumrungrad, she is more like a therapist though, she made me quit my bad habits with her words of wisdom :)
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Re: "Hospital in hot water over HIV case " - news from Thailand
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2019, 10:35:16 pm »
This is about the same case.

A YOUNG THAI-JAPANESE man recently revealed he contracted the HIV virus via a blood transfusion given as part of his leukaemia treatment at a well-known private hospital in Bangkok 15 years ago.

What's the relevance?

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/national/30369250
« Last Edit: May 13, 2019, 10:39:53 pm by joemutt »

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Re: "Hospital in hot water over HIV case " - news from Thailand
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2019, 06:51:34 am »
Hiya

I split some posts and, than merged this all into one new topic.

Blood transfusions HIV infections are nowadays super rare with screening protocols in place, i'm not saying it can't happen but its not realistically a modern HIV concern in nations with screening protocols.

Plenty of nations had scandals related to past mistakes though, and it still makes the news from time to time, Ireland including. Seems like this Thailand case might be just such a story.

Ireland:

Oct 11, 2017
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/victim-of-contaminated-blood-products-was-awarded-2-96m-1.3251084

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A State tribunal last year awarded one victim of contaminated blood products €2.96 million.

The highest award for last year is disclosed in the 2016 annual report of the hepatitis C and HIV compensation tribunal, which confirms that awards totalling €962 million have been paid to victims and their families since it was established in 1995.

An additional €169.86 million for related legal costs has also been paid over the past two decades, bringing the total bill to the State of €1.132 billion.

The spend of €169.86 million in legal fees over the past two decades refers to 3,691 claims.

The 2016 annual report states that €15.5 million was paid out in compensation in 2016 to claimants who were infected with hepatitis C and HIV through contaminated blood products. The €2.96 million award was the highest made last year, with the average award totalling €432,935.

The State has now paid out more than €719.68 million in compensation since its establishment in 1995, together with €158 million in payments from a reparation fund. Additional compensation of €84.83 million has been awarded to date by the High Court on appeal.

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Re: "Hospital in hot water over HIV case " - news from Thailand
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2019, 10:19:42 am »
What's the relevance?
none of course ;)
it's just more stigma-building bad press told by an under-educated hospital official to an equally under-educated reporter who thought this "news" might help sales by "appealing" to some of the under-educated subscribers of the news service.

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Expressing regret for the patient’s plight, the public relations team said he’d been undergone 266 treatment sessions in the time he’d been cared for at the hospital. It said the hospital was committed to providing him aid in accordance with humanitarian principles
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After a decade of free treatments at the hospital, the family decided to switch to herbal medication, but the results were unsatisfactory so they returned to the hospital,
underneath all the hoopla though is a really sad story about falling "out of care".

A young man, who has probably grown tired of daily meds and doctor visits (all free of charge provided by the hospital), and his under-educated parents fall for a charlatan-claim that "natural remedies" are better than ARVs, and so the young man stops ARVs. When he begins to sicken (how else would they know that the "results were unsatisfactory"?) the man and his parents return to the hospital and the doctors that they had ignored and abandoned, to find it wasn't as easy getting services the second time around.

stories like this happen every day without anyone ever caring how the patient originally contracted the disease. that part was just stigma-building hype for $$$.

In America, the state Ryan White Programs and state health departments track people getting care for HIV and look for patients who are likely to fall out of care or have fallen out of care. Intervention Specialists often call or visit homes to try to find patients so they can get patients to return to care (remember, someone who is UD doesn't spread HIV U=U, so it's a public health issue to return patients to care).
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Offline terrymoore

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Re: "Hospital in hot water over HIV case " - news from Thailand
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2019, 03:46:02 am »
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A young man, who has probably grown tired of daily meds and doctor visits (all free of charge provided by the hospital), and his under-educated parents fall for a charlatan-claim that "natural remedies" are better than ARVs, and so the young man stops ARVs. When he begins to sicken (how else would they know that the "results were unsatisfactory"?) the man and his parents return to the hospital and the doctors that they had ignored and abandoned, to find it wasn't as easy getting services the second time around.

So true and so sad...

And i believe behind this article is another recent article about how expensive the cost of care is in the private sector in Thailand (relative to the public alternatives - 1000`S % more expensive - but still much cheaper than USA..). The government is threatening to intervene if they do not make adjustments = another shake-down = prices wont go lower, just some officials will get richer... oh well... we take the good and the bad in the LOS.


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Re: "Hospital in hot water over HIV case " - news from Thailand
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2019, 12:27:53 am »
none of course 
it's just more stigma-building bad press told by an under-educated hospital official to an equally under-educated reporter who thought this "news" might help sales by "appealing" to some of the under-educated subscribers of the news service.

Agreed this article has no relevance whatsoever. It is an old story that has been recycled. And as the original reporting was done in Thai the English translations have several mistakes in them.   There are many unusual things that can happen in a hospital and this is just one of them. This is an isolated random incident that should be read, noted, then deleted not broad cast.

 


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