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Author Topic: Not Declaring Status?  (Read 540 times)

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Offline Loa111

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Not Declaring Status?
« on: March 15, 2019, 08:28:17 am »
I'm wondering with the magic of modern ART treatment brining Undetectable level which of course is Untransmittable
With U=U, if society becomes more aware of U=U, stigma lessening in society etc..
Will it ever happen that poz people under treatment who are undetectable get to the stage legally etc of not having to declare their status before entering into sexual relations?


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Re: Not Declaring Status?
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2019, 08:44:21 am »
Many nations its not required to disclose before sex already regardless of U=U and prosecutions are limited to only (reckless) transmission cases.

I don't think the U=U slogan will change disclosure laws anytime soon for nations or states that do have them, U=U is hardly a new fact its just getting more attention, but i think this attention might aid in the pressure over the long run to change outdated laws on disclosure.

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stigma lessening in society etc..

I think U=U is great against self-stigma for many although the blow back is people stressing about UD levels and we have had plenty of threads, emails and contacts regarding that, so a new twist to the self-stigma

I don't think it will magically change society, for some it will depending on the type of stigma faced it will make huge changes for others not so much, its tool not a magic bullet and to be honest the issues I've personally faced U=U will make no difference.

Jim
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Offline MadDog125

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Re: Not Declaring Status?
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2019, 12:39:14 am »
In the US it varies somewhat by state.  For me I see it as a moral question.  General public doesn't need to know, but anyone i might engage with i see it as dishonest not to tell.  The risk may be negligible, that's not my call to make for someone else.  For me I'm the one with the exception thus i adjust rather than the world adjust for me.  The law may require or not.  Consider how you were infected, don't you wish they knew their status and we're honest about it?
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Re: Not Declaring Status?
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2019, 05:45:04 am »
In the US it varies somewhat by state.  For me I see it as a moral question.  General public doesn't need to know, but anyone i might engage with i see it as dishonest not to tell.  The risk may be negligible, that's not my call to make for someone else.  For me I'm the one with the exception thus i adjust rather than the world adjust for me.  The law may require or not.  Consider how you were infected, don't you wish they knew their status and we're honest about it?

Personally I fully was aware that having sex comes with STI risks including HIV, a responsibility to myself I accepted. Wrote about it the other day https://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=71109.msg

Morals aside, i'm not sure having non-infectious people disclose by law will or has had any real world impact, other than reducing testing rates & harming the public health further in multiple ways.

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