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HIV from needle that touched the table surface
« on: January 21, 2019, 11:13:09 am »
Hello,
I recently had a blood test. The technician opened a new needle and left it on the table surface for at least 30 secs along with the vacutainer tube holder. The sharp front part of the needle didn't touch the surface but some portion of the needle touched the surface.

I know it is a new needle, but whether the outer surface of the needle would have picked some infection from the surface?
Is it a possible HIV tranmsission route?

As it is directly piereced in the vein, does it add any additional risk?
 
Please provide your feedback.

Thanks

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Re: HIV from needle that touched the table surface
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2019, 11:19:20 am »
Hiya,

No HIV risk whatsoever, so relax and move on with your life.

Jim

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Re: HIV from needle that touched the table surface
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2019, 11:45:18 am »
Hi Jim,
Thanks for your reply, Have a good day

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Re: HIV from needle that touched the table surface
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2019, 11:54:12 am »
You're welcome
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Re: HIV from needle that touched the table surface
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2019, 05:54:54 am »
Hello Jim,
Few follow up questions
1) The needle was placed in the table where the technician used to place the used needles and cotton swabs with blood. So the possibility of blood strain on the surface of the table is high. But it looked dried with few blood spots, when I took the test. Does this increase the transmission probability?

2) I did this blood test for HIV, as I was worried of the transmission due to a Upper GI track endoscopy. Does endoscopy provide an opportunity for HIV transmission if the equipment is not properly sterilized? I haven't checked with the doctor on the sterilization status of the endoscopy equipment before the use.

3) For any reason is a follow up HIV blood test required for the above said instance?

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Re: HIV from needle that touched the table surface
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2019, 06:16:17 am »
1)
Hiya

Firstly please try to understand that HIV far too fragile to remain infectious on the tip of a sharp object like a needle as once it is exposed outside the human body to the environment the outer receptors that the virus uses to infect human cells is damaged (corroded) and thus renders it unable to infect.

Your concern lacks quantity to infect, and above all simply lacks exposure to viable (infectious) HIV. 

So no HIV risk, and although its true that sharing syringes (IV drug usage) is a blood risk , this is actually due to directly injecting a quantity of blood (backwash) into the blood stream that has been short term stored in what is in essence a vacuum.

A sharp object, needle, lancet, pin into contact with a table etc is nothing like that, lacks the conditions needed and hence nobody has even been infected the way you fear despite scaremongering we sometimes see in the media

2)

Stop.

There are no reports of HIV transmission by GI endoscopy at the moment, also the equipment that is reused is sterilized, and in addition to this it is exposed to the environment before being used on you, also doctors and nurse are professionals and so all in all there is no logical reason to believe this was any HIV concern for you.

It would be many times more realistic to be concerned that a drunk pilot despite air regulation, looses control of a plane, come off course and finally crashes his jumbo-jet on your house today, killing you instantly only a few moments after you finish reading my post...

3)

None.

Try to relax, move on with your life, stop thinking of new and strange ways to contact HIV instead simply focus on your real risks and, test like everyone should at least once a year.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions. Consider starting PrEP as an additional layer of HIV prevention for the future.

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as safe in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for far to acquire STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

More information on HIV Basics, PEP, TaSP and Transmission can be found through the links in my signature to our POZ pages, this includes information on HIV Testing

Kind regards

Jim

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