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Offline Dwilkes

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Have I a conclusive result?
« on: January 12, 2019, 06:47:21 pm »
Hi,

I have some questions on potential risks and a specific incident
that I would like some advice on.

On October 7th I had unprotected vaginal intercouse with a girl I had been
seeing on occasions as I had split from my long term
partner of 17 years a few months previously. I came inside of her without a
condom so while I know this was a risk I felt it was a slight one due to how well I know the girl.

Anyway, I decided to take a Rapid HIV test on October 17th (biosure test - 2 weeks after risk event)
and also visited a sexual health clinic for full (6 weeks after the risk event)
and it came back negative. All other tests for other STI's also came back clear. 

I had no other risk events from October 7th to Christmas eve as following a few drinks with my ex
while wrapping our childs xmas toys we ended up having protected sex but after I came and took my penis out
we noticed the condom had broke so I came inside her. As I had a vasectomey a few years back we didn't worry
about it and at the time I never even considered my risk event from 10/11 weeks previous because of the 2 negative
rapid tests.

As I know her 17 years and also know she would not have had sex with anyone else
(she has a low sex drive and to be honest was a major reason we split). She also told me she
hadn't had sex since we split and I would believe her 100%.

My reason for mailing the forum is around 10 days after christmas eve I went to her place
to see my daughter and my ex was telling me she felt lousy. She had 6 or 7 spots on her side,
swollen neck glands, was tired and has flu like symptoms. The following morning I attended the sexual
health clininc for a 13 week test (INSTI Rapid test - 60 seconds) and again the results came back negative.

I am a nervous person normally but my questions below are;

1) Since I tested conclusively negative 3 times up to the 13 week point post the risk event on October 7th,
is it fair to assume there is no way I could have passed HIV to my ex at the week 10/11 stage? Like if at
13 weeks post event I tested negative then that means up to the 10/11 week I am defintely negative as
I had no other sexual event risks?

2) I know I have no way to know my ex herself has not got HIV as I only have her word she has not had sex
with anyone else but I see no reason to mention she should test due to her "symptoms" listed above since
my 13 week test would prove I had not got HIV at the time we had unprotected sex on Dec 24th? The reason I do
not want to mention I tested to her is she is very closed minded and would possibly prevent me seeing my
daughter if she thought i had reason to test for HIV.

3) I fully know symptoms are not a way to diagnose HIV but I am basing the timelines of my proven negative
at week 2, 6 and 13 that I could not possible have had HIV at week 10/11 since I did not have sex of any kind
with another person?

4) I presume it doesn't matter the make/brand of all 3 rapid tests as 3 negative results by 13 weeks is conclusive?

Sorry for all the questions but I just want to clear my mind

I do know that the having sex with my ex was probably a risk for ME since my testing suggesting I am HIV
negative and only a test in 3 months would prove I still am post Dec 24th.

I'm not saying if I was HISTORY positive I would not tell her to get testeem because I 100% would but maybe Ive no need to tell her and she has a simple cold or flu since my timelines meant I was negative when when we had sex?

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Re: Have I a conclusive result?
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2019, 07:42:48 pm »
Hiya

You did not aquire HIV from the October encounter and have a conclusive result.

Regarding Xmas you know it was a risk to you, not much to add.

Jim
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Offline Dwilkes

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Re: Have I a conclusive result?
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2019, 07:48:44 pm »
Thanks Jim I really appreciate your assurances

Im just relieved that my Tests are conclusive as I could never forgive myself if I infected someone else had I acquired HIV.

Probably asking the same questions again so apologies

1) would you be familiar with Biosure and INSTI tests and approve of both brands for rapid testing?

2) I'm very aware symptoms mean nothing but as you agree I am conclusively negative my ex symptoms can't be from HIV unless she has other risk events I'm not aware of?

3) I will test again in 3 months following my risk on Dec 24th.

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Re: Have I a conclusive result?
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2019, 08:33:04 pm »
1.
Yup and biosure is the type I use to bring accross the border for people.

I've already said the result was conclusive, this is based on you using an approved test, correctly and based on the timelines you gave in your post

2.

Symptoms are Irrelevant. You can't give her something you don't have, stop feeling guilty about nothing!

3.

Sure and remember to test for far more easier to transmit STI's whilst you are at it

Jim
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Offline Dwilkes

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Re: Have I a conclusive result?
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2019, 08:45:15 pm »
Thanks Again Jim.

I did the biosure test in a Terence Higgins Trust Centre inew Cardiff at week 2, full STI and 4th Gen rapid test at Week 6 in Charter Medical Smith field and then the INSTI test in the Sexual Health Clinic Cork at Week 13 (as you can tell I do a lot of travelling for work!) and everything showed negative so happy days!

From reading the forum I can honestly say the forum mods and in particular yourself are amazing caring people who are providing a great serice to people like me. You are an amazing person Jim!

I also want to wish all other participants to the heart forum successful results and as much emotionall and moral support they seek here.

Thank You!

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Re: Have I a conclusive result?
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2019, 08:44:16 am »
You're welcome.

Take it easy, Jim

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions.  Consider starting PrEP as an additional layer of HIV prevention going forward.

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as safe in terms of HIV might still pose a risk for transmission of other far easier to acquire STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

More information on HIV Basics, PEP, TaSP and Transmission can be found through the links in my signature to our POZ pages, this includes information on HIV Testing

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