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Condom break at Middle near base
« on: December 21, 2018, 07:37:33 pm »
Good night, on the 8th at dawn I had an encounter with a prostitute with whom the condom was used, I was somewhat drunk but I remember that I saw it as an air bubble and in the end she told me that we no longer followed what I accepted.
At hrs I checked my trouser bag and had stored the condom on paper and noticed that it was broken but not at the tip but almost at the base in the middle precisely and was not broken, but was a kind of hole but did not cover all the condom circumference but only "one side"
Symptom 1: Three days later I started with throat discomfort with phlegm and cough with phlegm.
Symptom 2: I have had a slight headache during some parts of the day but it is quite mild and it is in the upper part of the head and other times it is coming to the neck from behind.
Symptom 3: I feel that I have had a fever and cold, but here in my country the temperature fluctuates this season between 12-20 ° c until today I was checking and it does not go from 37.5 to much.
Symptom 4: I felt strange for the part of the left amygdala that it was a ganglion but it happens to me when I turn my head to another direction and it is not always, I do not have red or heat in that part at the moment.
Symptom 5: My right elbow and right shoulder hurts a bit but it is only when I move it in a certain direction

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Re: Condom break at Middle near base
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2018, 03:15:02 am »
Hiya

Your symptoms have nothing to do with HIV. See a doctor and treat whatever is making you sick.

Stop holding onto used condoms in your bag, when condoms break during the intercourse they shred leaving no doubt, there is no need to be running around with used condoms in your bags.

I doubt you had any real HIV exposure from this encounter but you were also intoxicated at the time so test for peace of mind if you are unsure of what happened.
Guideline is to test at 6 week post possible exposure and again at 3 months to confirm with an approved HIV antibodies test

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Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions.

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as ‘safe’ in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

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Re: Condom break at Middle near base
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2018, 12:47:18 pm »
I'm really sure that the condom breaks during intercourse I remember that was at the end, I don´t ejeculate, but I definitely stop the sex when does happen, even so you could have the same opinion about it? besides that, later I peed on the toilet and that was all.
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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2018, 01:38:00 pm »
My assessment remains the same.

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Re: Condom break at Middle near base
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2018, 04:41:57 pm »
It is possible due my stress and anxiety I develop some of the symptons that listed above? or even develop more symptons like diarrea or ulcer in my tongue?

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Re: Condom break at Middle near base
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2018, 04:50:05 pm »
Anxiety & Stress can cause all kinds of physical problems asides from lowering the immune function on top of it and, coincidence does happen more often than people like to admit. We only have several thousands examples of this on the forum. 

Anyhow your symptoms have nothing to do with HIV from this incident regardless of your HIV status, I hope you feel better soon but simply see a doctor and treat whatever is making you sick.

As for your HIV risk assessment it remains unchanged:

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Re: Condom break at Middle near base
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2018, 04:46:39 am »
You're post was removed and I am not going to warn again.

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Nothing you mentioned in your removed post changes your assessment, for peace of mind test, guidelines is to test at 6 week post possible exposure and again at 3 months to confirm with an approved HIV antibodies test.

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Re: Condom break at Middle near base
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2019, 08:37:24 pm »
Sorry, I didnt read all the rules....

I am terribly affected after find this

https://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=68466.0

I know that could be some of the very rare %  that you all talked were the insertive ended up positive, but I'm freaking out right now.

I still have throat with phlegm, it not sore at all but I felt my left side of my head aching, like I have ear infection or something, near my neck. Maybe is swollen nodes or something, but I cannot see anything changes of size on them.

I noticed a little wound in my penis, near glans, I remember now that the condom slip during intercourse and maybe that's why I have the little wound, taking this in consideration the risk change?

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Re: Condom break at Middle near base
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2019, 09:25:56 pm »
Yeah it happens and?

Getting stressed over someone's "story" who had a reactive (happens all the time) unconfirmed result and unlikely to be confirmed is irrelevant to you.

Your assessment simply remains unchanged. You were the insertive partner protected by a condom until it broke at worst and at best it did not break but you were messing around with the condom some hours later out of irrational fear and convinced yourself it broke when you had no risk...

To be sure for peace of mind test, guidelines is to test at 6 week post possible exposure and again at 3 months to confirm with an approved HIV antibodies test.

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Re: Condom break at Middle near base
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2019, 09:38:45 pm »
I thought that a wound done in the intercourse would add more risk, maybe for ease my mind I will test tomorrow, because I will have four weeks since the encounter, I know is not definitly pero maybe it will ease my mind.


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Re: Condom break at Middle near base
« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2019, 09:46:16 pm »
No it would not make any difference.

Try to relax, your stressing yourself out for no good reason. Even if you had unprotected intercourse it would not warrant stressing out to this degree

Look test if you must, Ill be honest I very much doubt the condom broke during the intercourse drunk or not it would have shredded and you would have recalled peeling a split wide open condom off your penis. It simply sounds more like it broke in handling after the intercourse!

The only reason I am saying test is for peace of mind as you seem to be telling two stories and was drunk at the time ... I'll say this if this was your only sexual encounter in your life the result will be negative!

Again by all means to be sure for peace of mind test, . My assessment of this encounter regardless is not going to change, the guidelines is to test at 6 week post possible exposure and again at 3 months to confirm with an approved HIV antibodies test

Jim
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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2019, 10:02:59 pm »
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Look test if you must, Ill be honest I very much doubt the condom broke during the intercourse drunk or not you would have recalled peeling a split wide open condom off your penis.

As I said, I don't know if was an air bubble or the hole, because as I said, I was drunk.

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The only reason I am saying test is for peace of mind as you seem to be telling two stories and was drunk at the time ... I'll say this if this was your only sexual encounter in your life the result will be negative!

Same storie, but I forgot to mention the slippery condom.

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Again by all means to be sure for peace of mind test, . My assessment of this encounter regardless is not going to change, the guidelines is to test at 6 week post possible exposure and again at 3 months to confirm with an approved HIV antibodies test

Sure, tomorrow only for ease my mind, later at 6 weeks, and three months lately, you're really friendly.

So, I read your other post about Bartholind's glans, but if the fluids that came from this are not infectuos and the cervical does, that does mean that if my penis were a big one I can touch the cervix mucuos and maybe that will be more risky If I had not wear a condom? (this is only to educate me)
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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2019, 10:24:24 pm »
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As I said, I don't know if was an air bubble or the hole, because as I said, I was drunk.

Again drunk or not if it failed during the intercourse it would have scredded/torn leaving no doubt. Regarding the condom being slippery, irrelevant.

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tomorrow only for ease my mind, later at 6 weeks, and three months lately, you're really helfully

By all means indeed go test.

If this was your only sexual encounter in life than fully expect a negative result.

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So, I read your other post about Bartholind's glans, but if the fluids that came from this are not infectuos and the cervical does, that does mean that if my penis were a big one I can touch the cervix mucuos and maybe that will be more risky If I had not wear a condom? (this is only to educate me)

Small or large penis, deep or shallow vagina .. If you engaged in unprotected intercourse well it would simply meet all the conditions required for aquiring HIV.

It's true bartholind gland fluids are not a concern, it's however normally a topic for certain oral sex questions and in cases of unprotected intercourse I always recommend testing regardless of how well endowed someone happens to be or not.

Jim
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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2019, 10:33:15 pm »
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If this was your only sexual encounter in life than fully expect a negative result.

No, it wasn't my first and only sexual encounter, in fact I have a wife and I really f*cked with this incident, that's why I'm very anxios and stressed. I think I will look at the condoms and lubs links you have over the site.

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mall or large penis, deep or shallow vagina .. If you engaged in unprotected intercourse well it would simply meet all the conditions required for aquiring HIV.

It's true bartholind gland fluids are not a concern, it's however normally a topic for certain oral sex questions and in cases of unprotected intercourse I always recommend testing regardless of how well endowed someone happens to be or not.

Thanks for the exaplanation.

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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2019, 04:35:36 am »
Look no amount of guilt is going to change anything and stressing over nothing is clearly not doing you any good.  Test for peace of mind but try to relax.

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I'm going to tell you the same thing i tell all people with a partner, as hard as it is to accept if you plan to have or have had unprotected intercourse with your partner, well its a risk to you.

This as it meets all the biological conditions needed for acquiring HIV.  Now I don't judge couples that decide to engage in unprotected intercourse, its often based on trust within a relationship, however just note this trust or faith does not prevent HIV and any unprotected intercourse is simply accepting a possible risk to you of acquiring HIV.

Just be aware of the risk and test frequently.

Jim

 
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« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2019, 01:07:24 pm »
Phew! Negative after four weeks i know is not conclusive but I least ease my mind for another two weeks.

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Re: Condom break at Middle near base
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2019, 01:13:18 pm »
Jim,
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Most people will test positive by 22-28 days, guidelines are to test at 6 weeks and again at 13 weeks to confirm the result. 6 weeks will pick up on the vast majority of cases , the 13 weeks is to exclude any outliers

The outliers of chemo treatment, drug user, etc, if im not one of them, can i be safe to test negative at six weeks?

I read in another post that you've see people test positive after seven weeks or so, in any/what case will this happen?

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« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2019, 01:32:33 pm »
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No I don't presume that in the testing guideline given.

Test at 6 weeks with an approved antibodies test as its rare to ever see this result change. If you want to confirm this result as conclusive that's fully up to you, than test at 3 months post exposure with an approved antibodies test.

Jim
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« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2019, 01:44:31 pm »
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When this may happen?

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« Reply #19 on: January 09, 2019, 01:51:14 pm »
Next to obvious reasons mentioned and also PEP/PrEP users its an average, and some people (rare) for no reason just take slightly longer than "average" to develop the antibodies at levels detectable than 4-6 weeks, again its rare.

Now I am not going to go on the merry go round of irrelevant questions with you.

You think you had a risk, than go test at 6 weeks with an approved antibodies test. As said its highly rare to ever see this result change. If you can't accept this result or want to confirm this result as conclusive that's fully up to you, than test at 3 months post exposure with an approved antibodies test.

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« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2019, 01:56:53 pm »
Look you can keep asking me questions over and over again but the end of the day my assessment is not going to change and neither is the basic testing guidelines I gave you.

Accept it or don't, up to you.

I doubt the encounter was any HIV risk whatsoever, the partner is and I am telling you to test for peace of mind if you are concerned so you can move on with your life!

So I wish you well, I mean that but do try to relax and stop stressing!

Jim


Look no amount of guilt is going to change anything and stressing over nothing is clearly not doing you any good.  Test for peace of mind but try to relax.

I'm going to tell you the same thing i tell all people with a partner, as hard as it is to accept if you plan to have or have had unprotected intercourse with your partner, well its a risk to you.

This as it meets all the biological conditions needed for acquiring HIV.  Now I don't judge couples that decide to engage in unprotected intercourse, its often based on trust within a relationship, however just note this trust or faith does not prevent HIV and any unprotected intercourse is simply accepting a possible risk to you of acquiring HIV.

Just be aware of the risk and test frequently.

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« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2019, 02:28:29 pm »
What other name receive the approved antibodies test, in my last test few days ago is not defined, as is only says negative with my personal information.

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« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2019, 02:38:07 pm »
No lab would be running an unapproved antibodies assay. So relax it could be one of a dozen and all equally fine.

Unapproved is mainly poeple buying crap tests from dogy online sellers.

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« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2019, 11:48:38 am »
Jim, if my encounter was the 8th dec I should then test at 2nd march, thats when the 12 week after my exposure, or should I test at march 9?

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« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2019, 11:53:36 am »
12 weeks is fine
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