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HIV Risk Assessment
« on: July 30, 2018, 01:31:49 pm »
Dar all,
first of all I would thank you for the great job you do, in particular -as I saw- for being so straightforward in your replies (fundamental for really reassuring anxious people like I am when diseases are the matter).
Here is what I kindly ask you to assess in terms of HIV risk.
In the summer of 2016 I had sex with a girl known on my workplace. The sex was unprotected oral bot ways (also me to her - cunnilingus) and protected vaginal intercourse. I was concerned because after the sex I noticed a small bump on my tongue (seems like a canker sore which was not painful and disappeared after three days) and I was scared because just minutes before I licked her clitoris and I don't know if this could be a viable route.
After 4 weeks the girl tested negative with a HIV duo test (I know that it's not conclusive but at least seemed not very likely she was +) and after 6.5 weeks after this episode I tested negative with a POC rapid test on blood.
During the following fall I had sex again with the same girl and that time the oral sex was only in my direction (no cunnilingus) and there have been two or three times protected vaginal sex (each time a new condom has been used).
My concern for that occasion was that I fingered her vigourosly and shortly after it I quickly licked my fingers to masturbate my penis with the same hand.
I have been concerned because: 1) at that time I had intraoral herpes (which I guess was acquired years ago) awakened by a dental surgery that took place ten days before and I licked my fingers potentially bringing some fluids into my mouth 2) after licking my hand I touched the head of my penis for the masturbation 3) I'm pretty sure that none of my latex condoms didn't break but I have read on the web some topics about the possibility that the condom is not able to ensure full protection or that even with using a condom there is a superlow risk

Since that time I was ok and generally healthy  but I'm a bit scared because in the last 2 years I had again 2/3 times episodes of intraoral herpes (not severe episode but that take 1 week to disappear) and I do not know if this could have been the normality for me also in the past and now I just notice it because I keep on examining my body for my HIV worry or if this could be due effectively as a manifestation of HIV (which is where my mind keep on pointing).

Many thanks once again for being direct in answering to my questions and (hope irrational) fears.

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Re: HIV Risk Assessment
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2018, 01:59:05 pm »
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The sex was unprotected oral bot ways (also me to her - cunnilingus) and protected vaginal intercourse.
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I was scared because just minutes before I licked her clitoris and I don't know if this could be a viable route.

No HIV risk to you.

HIV can not transmit through an intact condoms and they shred if they fail during intercourse leaving no doubt.

Getting your penis sucked is not a HIV risk, saliva is not infectious, it also contains over a dozen elements that neutralize HIV. Let me put it this way after nearly 40 years in terms of BJ's there hasn’t been a single documented case of HIV transmission to an insertive partner (the person being "sucked") and you will not be the worlds first.

As for giving oral to a women, so cunnilingus, well see the fluid a woman produces when sexually excited comes from the Bartholin's glands, this is a lubricating fluid and does not have any more hiv present than other bodily secretions such as saliva, sweat or tears. Saliva, sweat and tears are not infectious fluids.

Keep in mind that HIV firstly needs to be present for it to be a risk and in sufficient quantity for it to transmit, it also than needs an effective route, and it must also reach cells which are susceptible to infection.

Simple Cunnilingus does not meet the biological requirements and you did not acquire HIV from this incident as you had no exposure.

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My concern for that occasion was that I fingered her vigourosly and shortly after it I quickly licked my fingers to masturbate my penis with the same hand.
I have been concerned because: 1) at that time I had intraoral herpes (which I guess was acquired years ago) awakened by a dental surgery that took place ten days before and I licked my fingers potentially bringing some fluids into my mouth 2) after licking my hand I touched the head of my penis for the masturbation 3) I'm pretty sure that none of my latex condoms didn't break but I have read on the web some topics about the possibility that the condom is not able to ensure full protection or that even with using a condom there is a superlow risk

There has simply never been a documented case of HIV transmission via fingering, you will not be the worlds first.

As for licking your fingers, well HIV does not remain infectious outside the human body, once hiv finds itself exposed outside the body, small changes in temperature,
pH / moisture levels all and exposure to air damage the virus receptors and render it unable to infect, so much so that nobody has ever been infected sexually once the fluids have been exposed to the environment

1 & 2 = Irrelevant
3 = Stop reading paranoid nonsense out of context. HIV can not transmit through an intact condom, the main issue with condoms is they can break but thankfully when they do its totally obvious as they shred. 

Look nothing you mentioned here was an exposure to HIV or met the conditions needed for transmission (Acquiring HIV) Move on with you life.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions.

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as ‘safe’ in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

More information on HIV Basics, PEP, TaSP and Transmission can be found through the links in my signature to our POZ pages, this includes information on HIV Testing

Kind regards

Jim

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Re: HIV Risk Assessment
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2018, 02:41:13 pm »
Thank you very much Jim, you were as direct as expected. I was Born in the 80s, so HIV always represented a big fear but in the last years this became really a nightmare even if I follow the golden rule (vaginal sex always with condoms). I don't know why, maybe I'm getting old  ;D
I do really hope that intraoral herpes break out is just related with my anxiety or my abuse of full-arginin food  :D now I'll try to move on.
Thank you once again and all the best.

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Re: HIV Risk Assessment
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2018, 02:50:55 pm »
You're welcome
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Re: HIV Risk Assessment
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2019, 08:52:21 am »
Hi Jim,
came back just for a quick question using my last free post.
Even if I suspect the answer you’ll provide me I prefer to have your opinion anyway.
This morning I was at the barber shop and while the barber was shaving my beard with a razor he cut my cheecks, causing a small cut (2mm) but quite deep so that it bled a bit before getting dry. Is there any risk if the razor hasn’t been sterilezed/cleaned?
Thank you for you usual willingness.
 

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Re: HIV Risk Assessment
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2019, 09:48:45 am »
Hiya,

Barber shop fears/questions are common however the truth is it's all fear not facts.

I read your post three times, it's no HIV risk whatsoever.
 
Jim
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