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Offline Jeff G

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Flu Shot Time !
« on: September 23, 2015, 04:15:33 pm »
I got my shot yesterday … please get your flu shots people. This years shot is supposed to be more effective than last years.
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Re: Flu Shot Time !
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2015, 04:43:00 pm »
oh ms. anxiety here...LOL.....isn't the flu shot a guess of what they think might come around? meaning we get exposed to possible flu strains that might not be?  isn't the LIVE flu in it?  That scares me  - ive never gotten one at all.
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8/9/18   CD4=858; VL=UD; 41%
12/27/18   CD4=841; VL=UD; 41%
4/24/19   CD4=751; VL=UD; 39%
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Re: Flu Shot Time !
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2015, 04:54:40 pm »
Getting mine next week. I'm lucky as my employer has a doctor on site for 3 days each year vaccinating all staff for free who want it.  :)
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Re: Flu Shot Time !
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2015, 04:59:34 pm »
oh ms. anxiety here...LOL.....isn't the flu shot a guess of what they think might come around? meaning we get exposed to possible flu strains that might not be?  isn't the LIVE flu in it?  That scares me  - ive never gotten one at all.

The shot does NOT contain live flu virus.  The whole point of a vaccine is to EXPOSE your immune system so that it mounts a response -- however, and this is very important, YOU CANNOT CATCH THE FLU FROM A FLU SHOT!!

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Re: Flu Shot Time !
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2015, 05:00:58 pm »
I can't believe Fall has already rolled around. I went to my clinic Monday for a whole bunch of other reasons, and left with a bandaid on my arm. I've been good at getting the shot for the 6 yrs now that I've lived in the Carolinas.
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Re: Flu Shot Time !
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2015, 05:08:15 pm »
oh ms. anxiety here...LOL.....isn't the flu shot a guess of what they think might come around? meaning we get exposed to possible flu strains that might not be?  isn't the LIVE flu in it?  That scares me  - ive never gotten one at all.

 
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/keyfacts.htm

1 thing is for sure not having the shot at all means it's guaranteed 100% not to help you.

That vs taking the shot gives you a vaccination against the expected flu season stains increasing the chances of not getting sick in the first place.

It's a small shot, it does not hurt and can help keep you healthy.
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Re: Flu Shot Time !
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2015, 05:17:35 pm »
The shot does NOT contain live flu virus.  The whole point of a vaccine is to EXPOSE your immune system so that it mounts a response -- however, and this is very important, YOU CANNOT CATCH THE FLU FROM A FLU SHOT!!

Mike

This is correct … sometimes people have a robust immune reaction to the flu shot and they think they are sick but its not the flu. My mom almost dies every year from the flu shot
( all in her head ) and swears she is sicker than she ever has been in her life and reminds us she is thankful we have never been as sick or had to suffer like she is. 

She never gets the flu anymore since we insist she gets the shot .
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Re: Flu Shot Time !
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2015, 05:22:01 pm »


Received mine today.  The two previous years, I received the shot on September 22nd. I was one day off this year !  8)


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Re: Flu Shot Time !
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2015, 05:23:13 pm »
Thanks! you guys are great!  I know the Dr is going to insist on it so its good to hear everyone's response so far!! :)  I guess it will be a first for me!....ugh these firsts....
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Re: Flu Shot Time !
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2015, 05:24:08 pm »

Received mine today.  The two previous years, I received the shot on September 22nd. I was one day off this year !  8)


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You previous post reminded me it was time for my yearly flu shot jamboree thread.
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Re: Flu Shot Time !
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2015, 05:26:35 pm »
Thanks! you guys are great!  I know the Dr is going to insist on it so its good to hear everyone's response so far!! :)  I guess it will be a first for me!....ugh these firsts....

You also need a pneumonia shot … I think they are good for 5 years.

and maybe a good worming … just kidding about the worming. 
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Re: Flu Shot Time !
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2015, 05:29:14 pm »
hahah yeah i got that pneumonia one and Hep A & B i think too
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10-27-15   CD4=522; VL=UNDETECTABLE!!!; 29%    7 wks, 4 days on Triumeq
1-28-16    CD4=479; VL=UD; 31% almost 5 mo on Triumeq
4-27-16    CD4=580; VL=UD; 32%
7-28-16    CD4=991; VL=UD; 38% almost 1 year on Triumeq
8-3-16    ONE YEAR DX
10-27-16    CD4=765; VL=UD; 39%
3-8-17   CD4=709; VL=27; 39%
7-13-17   CD4=942; VL=UD; 41%
10/12/17   CD4=626; VL=UD; 39%
1/21/18    CD4=650; VL=UD; 40%
4/26/18   CD4=893; VL=UD; 39%
8/9/18   CD4=858; VL=UD; 41%
12/27/18   CD4=841; VL=UD; 41%
4/24/19   CD4=751; VL=UD; 39%
8/27/19   CD4=719; VL=UD; 36%
10/31/19   CD4=746; VL=UD; 37%

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Re: Flu Shot Time !
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2015, 05:30:44 pm »
You previous post reminded me it was time for my yearly flu shot jamboree thread.

 :)  Hee,  Haw.......  8)
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Re: Flu Shot Time !
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2015, 08:50:53 pm »
Hi from the Land of Smiles,
I find this posted is very interesting for me (as a newbie) and, i hope it is not considered "hijacking" if i expand on your post Jeff G. My question is, are these shots really necessary or are they just a convenience. I mean, Hep vaccinations i can understand - its a horrible chronic condition if caught, so better safe then sorry (too bad there isn't one of these for HIV...). However, for the flu, is this just more of a convenience rather than a life saving preventative vaccine? What if i get the flu (without ever getting the vaccine) - am i more at risk of getting the flu and having worse symptoms (life threatening?!) since i am also HIV+ or are the symptoms (and your recommendation) the same for HIV- person? What if my CD4 is at normal levels (above 900) - does that make a difference (i.e. you recommended mainly for people who have a below 500 CD4 count)?
Finally, regarding a vaccine for pneumonia - i never knew one existed - is this relatively new? All same questions for fly apply for this too.

Thanks! BTW- I will check out if these are offered in Thailand and inform you guys.

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Re: Flu Shot Time !
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2015, 09:19:10 pm »
Hey Terrymore ,
They are very necessary . A bad flu can knock you on your ass
HIV poz or not .  You may still get a light case of the flu even with the shot , but your symptoms will not last long and will not be any where near as bad.
Get Yours ! , also as Jeff said your pneumonia shot.
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Re: Flu Shot Time !
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2015, 09:20:01 pm »
Hi from the Land of Smiles,
I find this posted is very interesting for me (as a newbie) and, i hope it is not considered "hijacking" if i expand on your post Jeff G. My question is, are these shots really necessary or are they just a convenience. I mean, Hep vaccinations i can understand - its a horrible chronic condition if caught, so better safe then sorry (too bad there isn't one of these for HIV...). However, for the flu, is this just more of a convenience rather than a life saving preventative vaccine? What if i get the flu (without ever getting the vaccine) - am i more at risk of getting the flu and having worse symptoms (life threatening?!) since i am also HIV+ or are the symptoms (and your recommendation) the same for HIV- person? What if my CD4 is at normal levels (above 900) - does that make a difference (i.e. you recommended mainly for people who have a below 500 CD4 count)?
Finally, regarding a vaccine for pneumonia - i never knew one existed - is this relatively new? All same questions for fly apply for this too.

Thanks! BTW- I will check out if these are offered in Thailand and inform you guys.

I've heard many docs and experts say being poz does not make us more likely to get the flu.  They say colds and flu are controlled by the immune system not affected by HIV.  But, we are at higher risk of getting pneumonia.  So, you get the flu and our chances of also getting pneumonia is increased. 

The flu vaccine is one of the best things we can do for ourselves and others.  It may offer 50-60% effectiveness in good match years.  But like the pneumonia vaccine, you may still get the flu or pneumonia, but researchers say having the vaccines may help to lessen the severity. 

 

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Re: Flu Shot Time !
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2015, 09:29:23 pm »
Thanks for the quick replies gents! Ok, between you and my doc's recomendation i'm convinced! - i will see what is available here. BTW, does it matter if i am UD or not to get the vaccine? I mean, should i first wait until i am UD? Also, would it be a good idea to wait if i am soon switching meds?

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Re: Flu Shot Time !
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2015, 10:17:55 pm »
Being UD has no impact on getting a flu shot (or getting dental care, for that matter......).  Nor should switching meds matter.
Stop putting things off - your HIV status should not run your life.  Getting a flu shot is a good thing for just about EVERYONE, poz or not.

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Re: Flu Shot Time !
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2015, 10:18:42 pm »
You also need a pneumonia shot … I think they are good for 5 years.

and maybe a good worming … just kidding about the worming.

I've gotten conflicting info on this.  I got my 5 year booster, along with the newer 13 vaccine-- can't remember name now.  Those were spaced apart, as recommended.  After the 5 year booster, I was told I wouldn't need another in 5 years.  But, I've read many say we should get it every 5 years.  Since I've had pneumonia twice, I will get mine every 5.  It can't hurt and may actually be the correct recommendation. 

As for the flu shot, I got mine in early November the last few years.  I have bought into the waning effect, and flu doesn't normally ramp up here until after Thanksgiving to February.  I have read research that it does start to lose its effectiveness, while others say it is minimal and no need to try and be strategic with timing.  I did learn I did get the boosted dose, which is normally recommended for the elderly.  I think it is the 4x strength dose. 

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Re: Flu Shot Time !
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2015, 10:24:30 pm »
However, for the flu, is this just more of a convenience rather than a life saving preventative vaccine?
don't knock those life saving qualities. "The CDC wants reporters to drop the 36,000 annual estimate (at last) and instead say that the death toll ranges from 3,300 to 49,000." Granted many of those deaths are the elderly and young children; but no one is immune - especially immune-compromised HIV+ people.


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For as long as I can remember now, we've been saying 36,000 people die each year from the flu.  When we've asked the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for updated figures, they told us 36K was the best they had.

Now it turns out the 36K was calculated way back in 1999, when flu deaths hit a peak.

A new analysis of the past 31 flu seasons, put out by the CDC this afternoon, shows that 36K might have been a third too high. It's more like 23,607 per year, on average. But it all depends on how you slice the data.

The new average is an average of the past 31 seasons. It goes all the way back to 1976. But if you were to look at just the past 10 seasons, the average per year is higher — 32,743.

Or you can look at this way: In some years as few as 3,349 have died (back in 1986-7).  But the highest annual average toll was 48,614, just seven seasons ago (2003-4).

The reason for this wide variation: Deaths peak when the H3N2 strain of influenza A dominates. When it's H1N1 or influenza B, the toll is quite a bit lower.  Scientists can guess which strain may predominate in a given year, but it's only a guess. That's why the flu vaccine doesn't work in some years.  But it usually does.
http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2010/08/26/129456941/annual-flu-death-average-fluctuates-depending-on-how-you-slice-it
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Re: Flu Shot Time !
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2015, 10:25:59 pm »
BTW, does it matter if i am UD or not to get the vaccine? I mean, should i first wait until i am UD? Also, would it be a good idea to wait if i am soon switching meds?
bocker's right! I'm not UD and I'm switching meds soon and yet I got the shot Mon. I have enough problems in my life right now without getting the damned flu. ;)
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Re: Flu Shot Time !
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2015, 10:41:03 pm »
Consider getting the newer quardavalent vaccine, it protects against an additional strain of B type flu. Most offices have it but you usually have to ask for it specifically and supplies can be more limited.

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/quadrivalent.htm


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« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2015, 08:24:22 am »
Another excellent reason to get the flu shot is to do our part to keep the flu virus out of our family's and community . People die every year from the flu so being sick with the flu may not be life threatening to some of us but I would hate to think I gave the flu to a chemo patient or a child with leukemia.   
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« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2015, 12:29:16 pm »
Just got my Flu Shot.

I had the Nurse cracking up laughing too!

 :)

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« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2015, 01:17:00 pm »
I don't take the flu jab, even :-\ though I get a letter through the post from my GP reminding me to, and another (email) from my clinic advising the same. As far as I'm concerned if the meds are working and as yet I've never had an aids diagnosis -why concern myself with that!

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« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2015, 01:45:49 pm »
I don't take the flu jab, even :-\ though I get a letter through the post from my GP reminding me to, and another (email) from my clinic advising the same. As far as I'm concerned if the meds are working and as yet I've never had an aids diagnosis -why concern myself with that!

Um … so that maybe you wont get the flu ? and to prevent you from giving it to others it may harm if you ever did .
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« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2015, 02:16:32 pm »
if the meds are working and as yet I've never had an aids diagnosis
these HIV-related issues have no connection to the prevention or treatment of flu
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Re: Flu Shot Time !
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2015, 04:08:32 pm »
I have never at anytime in my life feared catching a cold or indeed the flu.  Infact, I don't know if I have ever even had the flu, given how life threatening it is I suspect that the worst I've ever had is a very nasty cold - one that is commonly dressed up and called the flu.
There are those that state that because of my Hiv status I should take the annual flu jab; yet these same people tell me that my health is good, I don't have aids and I need not worry about my health.   
Now I could be  synical and call them hypocritical but I'd rather chill out and not concern myself too much about whether a bolt of lightening or a speeding taxi cab will strike me down tonight.

As to stressing out about the possibility of me passing on a killer cold or flu to a bed ridden cancer sufferer.....are you for real life man?

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« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2015, 04:15:54 pm »
these HIV-related issues have no connection to the prevention or treatment of flu

You are talking double Dutch;  I have not claimed HAART to be an anti flu aid, I'm stating that just because you've Hiv poz, it doesn't mean you have to excessively stress out about health issues or, moreover, pump any   " vaccine " into your system just on governments sayso!

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« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2015, 04:23:21 pm »
As to stressing out about the possibility of me passing on a killer cold or flu to a bed ridden cancer sufferer.....are you for real life man?

WOW, just WOW!

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« Reply #30 on: September 24, 2015, 04:26:05 pm »
I have never at anytime in my life feared catching a cold or indeed the flu.  Infact, I don't know if I have ever even had the flu, given how life threatening it is I suspect that the worst I've ever had is a very nasty cold - one that is commonly dressed up and called the flu.
There are those that state that because of my Hiv status I should take the annual flu jab; yet these same people tell me that my health is good, I don't have aids and I need not worry about my health.   
Now I could be  synical and call them hypocritical but I'd rather chill out and not concern myself too much about whether a bolt of lightening or a speeding taxi cab will strike me down tonight.

As to stressing out about the possibility of me passing on a killer cold or flu to a bed ridden cancer sufferer.....are you for real life man?

What stress ? I did not see any stressing in anyones posts, other than people commenting on if they are getting the jab and the possible health benefits for themselves and others around them.

As for the chilling out and the speeding taxi cabs - I hope you do look before you cross the road or would that be "Stressing". too much ?
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« Reply #31 on: September 24, 2015, 04:29:55 pm »
Im for real Denvaux. I honestly do care if I infect another person with the flu . I have family that has medical conditions that could kill them if they get the flu . It’s the same concept as HIV treatment is prevention.
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« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2015, 04:52:14 pm »
Im for real Denvaux. I honestly do care if I infect another person with the flu . I have family that has medical conditions that could kill them if they get the flu . It’s the same concept as HIV treatment is prevention.

Now that's a different kettle of fish Jeff;  you didn't state that in your very short post and anyone that didn't know it very easily could have seen/ as I did, your retort as rather excessive, and yes Mr. Dublin overly stressed out!

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« Reply #33 on: September 24, 2015, 04:55:53 pm »
Now that's a different kettle of fish Jeff;  you didn't state that in your very short post and anyone that didn't know it very easily w
could have seen/ as I did, your retort as rather excessive, and yes Mr. Dublin overly stressed out!

This thread is a simple reminder to get a flu shot and is not anything controversial . Its clear your intent is just to be provocative and stir trouble so please do not post in this thread again. Your cooperation is appreciated .
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« Reply #34 on: September 24, 2015, 04:58:32 pm »
Now that's a different kettle of fish Jeff;  you didn't state that in your very short post and anyone that didn't know it very easily could have seen/ as I did, your retort as rather excessive, and yes Mr. Dublin overly stressed out!

You do seem a touch stressed on the topic not sure why though.
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« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2015, 04:59:37 pm »
It never ceases to amaze me that every year we have a Flu Shot thread and every year one or more come in and trivialize the impact of the flu to sort of justify why they don't get the shot.

If you don't want to get the flu shot -- don't get it, but really, please do so with eyes wide open.  Hundreds of thousands of people around the world die of flu every year -- some years, millions die.  Yes, the odds are "in your favor" that you won't come down with it or have serious issues if you do.  Of course, the odds are even more "in your favor" that you won't get infected with HIV -- oops, guess we were all in the minority on THAT one!

For the record -- I've been getting the flu shot for years and years -- I got it when I was HIV negative and continue to get it now -- not because I'm poz, but because I don't want to get the flu nor give it to others - -including co-workers, my grandchildren or even a stranger on the street.

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« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2015, 05:08:39 pm »
You are talking double Dutch;  I have not claimed HAART to be an anti flu aid, I'm stating that just because you've Hiv poz, it doesn't mean you have to excessively stress out about health issues or, moreover, pump any   " vaccine " into your system just on governments sayso!
You implied that because you were on meds and hadn't had aids there was nothing to stress about nor any concern about getting the flu shot. And what I told you is that your HIV status and meds have nothing to do with making a decision to get a flu test. I'm not even certain why you brought up your HIV status or treatment. Because we are not defined by HIV, you need to make this decision whether you're on meds or no, or whether you have advanced HIV disease or not. Matter of fact, whether HIV- or HIV+, we all still need to make this decision.

Would you like protection against the flu - to protect yourself, and others around you? Those are the only considerations to ponder about taking the flu shot. I would suggest that being HIV+ should add a little more weight in the decision on the side of getting the shot; but it's not the end-all-be-all in the equation.

btw I made my decision based on scientific medical advice rather than just the "government's sayso". Of course, medical experts at the CDC have seen the scientific medical advice also and used that in making their decisions to fund flu vaccines for millions of people around the globe.
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« Reply #37 on: September 24, 2015, 05:09:09 pm »
It never ceases to amaze me that every year we have a Flu Shot thread and every year one or more come in and trivialize the impact of the flu to sort of justify why they don't get the shot.



I could not agree more. Its one thing to not have the information on why getting a flu shot is so important and another to keep insisting its not worth it once you do have the facts. Its always struck me as very selfish to not get these vaccinations so as to assure herd immunity in our community.
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« Reply #38 on: September 24, 2015, 05:11:41 pm »
In order to be fair to Denvaux let us not address any more replies to him in this thread since he will not be posting in this thread again.
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« Reply #39 on: September 24, 2015, 05:47:34 pm »
Perfect timing, got my blood drawn yesterday for my appointment with my ID doc Tuesday so guess I'll be getting my shot while I'm there..

Even before my dx, I've always gotten my shots bc I gotta visit elderly members of my family.. If I don't its really cause I forgot but kinda hard to forget when you got the doc reminding you..

Besides, its just the right thing to do, so happy to do my part.. Never know if the flu you have goes on to kill someone else, just saying.

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« Reply #40 on: September 24, 2015, 09:03:20 pm »
Hi again from the LOS! i hope i can ask a few more (serious) questions - i really appreciate this thread btw - you guys are so much more informative than anything i can get out here...:-)
1. "Flu Shot Time" - does that TIME vary in different parts of the world? I live in Bangkok - so would it me time for me now too? Does it even matter when, as long as i get it once every x amount of time?
2. Regarding vaccine matches - I read in the link that JimDublin posted by the CDC (http://www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/keyfacts.htm), and it seems that it is focusing mainly on the USA.  Is it safe to assume that if i get the vaccine here in Thailand that it will cover strains which are more common in this part of the world? Is there any way to check? Finally, if i travel to Europe often, is there any way i can get shots while on my trip there too - meaning, i get the shot here in BKK 9for Asian strains (?), and then, when i get to Europe, i get a shot during one of my visits there to cover the European strains.
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« Reply #41 on: September 28, 2015, 03:20:47 pm »
Hi Terrymore,
I would assume they would be the same or similar as so many
people travel , and would want to be protected .
That's a good question for your doctor ,Im not sure.

I got mine when I had my labs drawn this morning  !
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« Reply #42 on: September 29, 2015, 10:50:22 pm »
Thanks, i the meantime i have done some research online and found out that the flew season is almost over now here and that the treatment is definitely available at the private hospitals (see example https://www.bumrungrad.com/healthpoint/june-2015/thailand-flu-season-treatment-care-bangkok-jci-best-hospital. I wonder if the public hospitals give them to regular Thai citizens as part pf health care. In any case i will inform my Doc that i am interested.

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« Reply #43 on: September 30, 2015, 08:38:08 am »
Your on the ball !
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« Reply #44 on: September 30, 2015, 10:30:55 am »
I have to get a flu shot for work. They did a round of people before finding out the batch had been damaged due to freezing. All those people have to get a second shot.

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Question------should my kids get the flu shot too? to protect me?  they are 17 and 11
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« Reply #46 on: September 30, 2015, 10:46:20 am »
Question------should my kids get the flu shot too? to protect me?  they are 17 and 11

Unless your doctor says otherwise a flu shot never hurts anyone. Kids get the flu so yeah, a flu shot is a good thing.
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« Reply #47 on: September 30, 2015, 10:37:14 pm »
Question------should my kids get the flu shot too? to protect me?  they are 17 and 11

If you get a flu shot -- then they don't need it protect you.  However, unless contraindicated, they should get one to protect THEM (and any unvaccinated folks they may come in contact with).

Once again -- flu shots are not important simply because someone is poz -- they are important because they protect people from getting the flu -- which can be life-threatening to anyone -- poz or neg.

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« Reply #48 on: October 08, 2015, 01:53:47 am »
I've seen a few friends on FB post this article, claiming the flu vaccine is junk and that it is all a money making scheme.  It always makes me wonder how many of their friends will believe that and decide not to vaccinate. 

The latest came from my cousin, who has a history of posting untrue things.  In fact, she unfriended me for pointing out her photo of Micheal Brown pointing a gun with a was of cash in his mouth was not him.  It was a photo of someone else, which was used to make him look all scary.  I nicely pointed out her photo was not him.  She doesn't take being corrected well.  She is very difficult, often times.  I only saw her post, because she's still friends with family.  But, I digress. 

The guy the article sites is also an AIDS denalist.  And, Johns Hopkins is only involved, in as much as he did some work there.  Here is the article I've seen going around and then the responses.  So, if you see friends and family posting it, you can link them to some real science and data.

http://www.realfarmacy.com/johns-hopkins-scientist-reveals-shocking-report-flu-vaccines/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensalzberg/2014/11/03/shocking-report-on-flu-vaccine-is-neither-shocking-nor-correct/

http://www.snopes.com/medical/disease/flushot.asp



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« Reply #49 on: October 08, 2015, 08:17:11 am »
Ted ... why even post something like this unless you have links to credible sites. The two working links you provided are not credible sources and one link I could not get to work at all.

If you find a story saying John Hopkins or the Mayo Clinic said something there should be a link in the story ( or your post ) that will take you there, if not its probably not true. Getting a flu shot is important so its probably not the best idea to post junk like in this in a thread unless you do your homework first. 

Other than that love you madly  ;) .
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