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Offline BigT32

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« on: December 24, 2013, 06:34:00 PM »
I am scared that I may have contracted HIV from an incident I had back in May 1st of this year.  I had oral sex with a female who I really did not know.  She claims she tested regularly but you can't believe people and not to mention after talking to her, her stories seem to be lies.  I brushed my teeth about an hour before performing oral sex on the girl, and I also had a small cut which I opened up probably a few hours prior the event.  The girl also had brushed her teeth prior to performing oral sex on me as well, so there could have been some cuts and sores in her mouth as well as mine.  The event was unprotected on both ends. 

After the event I started to get very worried because I was in a committed relationship, which I went out of and I saw the risk of oral sex is low, but there is some risks involved even more so when there are cuts involved.  I had no symptoms and was feeling good at the time.  After about 6 weeks later around the 7th of June my body internally started to feel hot.  I noticed I would eat and not feel full.  A few weeks after this I started to have a bout of night sweats about 3-4 days worth but never experienced a temperature.  It was summer so I was sweating more than usual.  I also also a good amount of weight quickly going from 263 down to 245 in only a matter of weeks.  Losing weight has always been hard for me.  I tested for the first time after this event 6 weeks after OraQuick Fingerstick negative. 

I tested again at the 12 week mark again OraQuick negative.  I tested with my physician 4 months vein draw negative.  However, I am experiencing major symptoms such as a loss of muscle in my legs and arms.  I also am never hot in my shoulders and neck at night, and it's EXTREMELY hard to sleep.  My heart also beats fast as well when trying to sleep.  I have major constipation and all of my stools constantly float which I hear is a sign of malabsorption.  I am also having EXTREMELY dry itchy skin.  I have tested every month since the event up until Dec 4th and the results have been negative and this test was done with a 4th generation Elisa they told me. 

I have called numerous hotlines and testing sites and told them my story, but these symptoms are what worry me.  Everyone tells me I am HIV negative, but I know it's hard to loss muscle just like that, and have a body that gets hot the way mine does especially when trying to sleep.  And an increased heart rate when trying to sleep.  I mean can someone please help me.  Does this sound like anxiety or stress?  I have never been so stressed in my life, so maybe this could be the cause.  I mean I did have sex with my girlfriend a few weeks after this event so maybe I am obsessed with possibly infecting her, I just don't know.  But could someone pleeeeeassseee pleassseeee help me.  I mean 7 months of testing should have picked up something.  Also what scares me is I ask my tester everytime after being tested is there anyway I could be a late converter(the ones after 6 months and they always say anything is possible).  That scares the living daylights out of me.  There has to be something going on, but I hope it's not HIV!!! Thank you and have a good Christmas!!!

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Re: Oral Sex Incident SCARRRRREDDDD
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2013, 06:43:31 PM »
 You never had an exposure form oral sex.

HIV is transmitted by;
Unprotected penetrative anal and/or vaginal sex
Sharing works with other IV drug users
Mother to child

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Re: Oral Sex Incident SCARRRRREDDDD
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2013, 06:48:23 PM »
Rapid why does the CDC say there is a low risk associated with oral sex then?  Also what is causing these symptoms.  Everything points to HIV and also I had an open or pretty fresh cut on my penis.  I mean people just don't lose muscle mass like that, especially when I was working out regularly.  I know that it's part of my job.  I mean do you feel this is just a case of severe anxiety and stress then?

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Re: Oral Sex Incident SCARRRRREDDDD
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2013, 06:50:11 PM »
I mean this you read my full post about all that I am experiencing.  These symptoms have not disappeared either.  I mean could I be someone that is not producing antibodies yet?  Or have a rare strain of the virus?  I do know the girl I had oral with did at one time live in Washington DC, which I believe has the highest rate of HIV cases in the US. 

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Re: Oral Sex Incident SCARRRRREDDDD
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2013, 07:28:29 PM »
Int Conf AIDS 2004 Jul 11-16; 15:(abstract no. WePpC2072)??Balls JE, Evans JL, Dilley J, Osmond D, Shiboski S, Shiboski C, Klausner J, McFarland W, Greenspan D, Page-Shafer K?University of California, San Francisco, San Francisco, United States

Oral transmission of HIV, reality or fiction? An update
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Page-Shafer, Kimberlya,b; Shiboski, Caroline Hb; Osmond, Dennis Hc; Dilley, Jamesd; McFarland, Willie; Shiboski, Steve Cc; Klausner, Jeffrey De; Balls, Joycea; Greenspan, Deborahb; Greenspan
Page-Shafer K, Veugelers PJ, Moss AR, Strathdee S, Kaldor JM, van Griensven GJ. Sexual risk behavior and risk factors for HIV-1 seroconversion in homosexual men participating in the Tricontinental Seroconverter Study, 1982-1994 [published erratum appears in Am J Epidemiol 1997 15 Dec; 146(12):1076]. Am J Epidemiol 1997, 146:531-542.

Studies which show the fallacy of relying on anecdotal evidence as opposed to carefully controlled study insofar as HIV transmission risk is concerned:

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Catania JA, Gibson DR, Chitwood DD, Coates TJ. Methodological problems in AIDS behavioral research: influences on measurement error and participation bias in studies of sexual behavior. Psychol Bull. 1990 Nov;108(3):339–362.

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Re: Oral Sex Incident SCARRRRREDDDD
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2013, 10:31:17 AM »

You do not have hiv. Even if you did have a risk (you did NOT have a risk), you have tested conclusively hiv negative. If you continue to feel unwell, work with your doctor to find out what is actually going on. Whatever that may be, you have ruled hiv OUT of the picture. Hiv isn't the only illness out there, you know.

Getting a blowjob is NOT a risk for hiv infection. Giving a blowjob is a theoretical risk if the person doing the blowing has poor oral health and the person being blown has a very high viral load.

Getting a blowjob is NOT a risk for hiv infection because not only is saliva not infectious, but it also contains over a dozen different proteins and enzymes that damage hiv and render it unable to infect.

As for blood in the mouth, unless you're in the habit of repeatedly punching a person in the mouth before they blow you, there could not possibly be enough blood present to cause the least hiv concern.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST FOR HIV SPECIFICALLY FOLLOWING A BLOWJOB, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

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