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Author Topic: Brain Fog Revisited  (Read 2628 times)

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Offline Maestro

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Brain Fog Revisited
« on: October 11, 2006, 01:21:06 PM »
This may have been discussed before, but I was wondering how long after infection the brain fog sets in?  Do you see a worsening, or does it come at once and hit a plateau?

I am curious because I was reading an article on AIDS dementia and how the defenition of that has changed over time.  I think I was reading on www.thebody.com .  Anyways, towards the end it was saying that the neurological disorders usually came late in an HIV infection but offered nothing to support that.

It was also interesting that I read that HIV was causing the neuropathy.  I thought it was the meds doing that.  Learning something new every day.

Here was the article http://www.thebody.com/nmai/dementia.html

By the way, just to inject an ounce of humor, and hopefully not offend anyone, I was looking at the title of my post, and thinking if you have brain fog really bad, then perhaps this subject isn't revisted, but a first look!

M

Offline Alain

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Re: Brain Fog Revisited
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2006, 01:57:31 PM »
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« Last Edit: November 03, 2006, 08:50:31 PM by cowandalehouse »

Offline Maestro

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Re: Brain Fog Revisited
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2006, 02:17:53 PM »
Read that already.  That seemed to be more of people describing the symptoms...


Offline megasept

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Re: Brain Fog Revisited
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2006, 02:29:58 AM »
M: brain fog sets in at the conclusion of the Fall Network New Season. So I answered your humor question first. When you joke about death and disease you liberate us from fear. I like "brain fog". Maybe a sick sense of humor keeps sickness at bay?!  ;)

I will worry about HIV-caused dementia when...
...I am demented
(or if I am really demented I would probably be worrying about something imaginary).

Seriously, it is not something in all of our futures. I have seen it twice. I don't worry about what I don't have, and I am more of a realist than an ostrich. I try to focus on the here and now, and perhaps what seems to be around the corner.
-megasept  8)


Offline DanielMark

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Re: Brain Fog Revisited
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2006, 04:08:51 AM »
This may have been discussed before, but I was wondering how long after infection the brain fog sets in?  Do you see a worsening, or does it come at once and hit a plateau?

Hi M,

I don't believe there's any one-size-fits-all answer to your question. There are many factors to consider besides HIV in evaluating instances of brain fog, like age, diet, stress levels and so on. I doubt it can be diagnosed to any set time frame after infection.

For instance, I’m nearly 47. I live with an anxiety disorder. On occasion I get what I call brain farts. Some people call them “senior moments.” Like the morning I got up from the computer to use the bathroom, came back and my coffee cup was gone. I looked for it for a good 20 minutes – growing ever more agitated – until I discovered it in the microwave oven where I had put it to warm it up.  ::)

Daniel

MEDS: REYATAZ & KIVEXA (SINCE AUG 2008)

MAY 2000 LAB RESULTS: CD4 678
VL STILL UNDETECTABLE

DIAGNOSED IN 1988

Offline allopathicholistic

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Re: Brain Fog Revisited
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2006, 08:52:36 AM »
I got up from the computer to use the bathroom, came back and my coffee cup was gone. I looked for it for a good 20 minutes – growing ever more agitated – until I discovered it in the microwave oven

LOL! sorry i shouldn't laugh Daniel. but this morning a Q-tip fell into the latrine - I quickly had to do something else making a mental note to take care of the Q-tip immediately after as soon as possible - an "important thing" - it took me about 5 minutes to remember what that "important thing" was! ......hope this doesn't f#%&g get worse!!

Offline DanielMark

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Re: Brain Fog Revisited
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2006, 04:37:37 PM »
No, I think it's important to laugh. I stopped taking myself overly seriously the day it hit home that my problems really aren't all that big compared to what some people have to live with.

Daniel
MEDS: REYATAZ & KIVEXA (SINCE AUG 2008)

MAY 2000 LAB RESULTS: CD4 678
VL STILL UNDETECTABLE

DIAGNOSED IN 1988

Offline aztecan

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Re: Brain Fog Revisited
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2006, 10:49:42 PM »
First, AIDS-related dementia is different from the brain fog we are discussing, although there may be some connection.

The people I knew who had dementia resembled those who had end-stage Alzheimer's disease, except the onset and progression was much more rapid - months instead of years.

The brain fog we discussed in RAB's thread is more like, well, a fog. Or, as Daniel said, like brain farts or senior moments.

I remember mentioning this to my first doctor. She said it was probably stress related. At the time (mid 90s) there wasn't anything known of "brain fog."

At the time, I had been infected a decade or more. Its been 11 years since that time, more or less. The brain fog is still there, but it isn't progressing, at least not like AIDS-related dementia.

It may be that dementia and brain fog are variations of the same thing, I don't know.

As for time frames, I think it is pretty much as others have said, different for each of us.

HUGS,

Mark
"May your life preach more loudly than your lips."
~ William Ellery Channing (Unitarian Minister)

 


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