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Offline PlznotPoz

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Unprotected Insertive Anal PEP
« on: December 07, 2012, 09:19:28 AM »
Hi Guys

I had anal sex protected with a professional recently (top and very brief) only my 3rd time doing this. Anyway seeing as it was (to my knowledge) protected i didn't worry. But then something happened to my health...let me give you a timeline of events:

Day one: Possible exposure (condom worn & unbroken to my knowledge)

Day eight: Almost to the hour a sore throat develops as evening approaches a headache, aches, chills, night sweats etc.

Day Nine: Today symptoms peaked really tired, bed ridden, swollen neck glands (golf ball size) and a headache

Day Ten: Still feeling crap i went to the Dr who took one look at my throat and said "bad case of strep throat" and prescribed antibiotics. 5 hours after starting them throat improves and overall well being improves over next few days, nightsweats continue...

Day Tweleve: Feeling much better no sore throat but still waking with light night sweats on arms and legs only!? Still a bit fatigued but feel as though I'm on the mend.

Is this ARS? Is it to soon for ARS? Now before anyone starts calling this a 'no risk' situation (which I would have agreed with if I hadn't got sick), I have found several cases in the "Just diagnosed" section of this forum where people say they used condoms and still got HIV.. This is why I'm scared. I even saw a post from a guy saying a dr told him he had strep throat so he decided to test anyway and came out poz and he thinks the strep for him was ARS.

Do i really have nothing to worry about regarding this exposure/non exposure? Could those symptoms suggest something untoward happened to the condom that i did not notice? Or is all this most likely, purely coincidental ?

Appreciate your thoughts, I'm really worried :(

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Re: Unprotected Insertive Anal PEP
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2012, 09:24:19 AM »
Plz,

Regardless of what you might read in the Just Tested section, YOU DID NOT HAVE A RISK. Sometimes newly diagnosed people don't want to own up to what they actually did, sometimes they don't report unsafe activities with people they were "sure" were hiv negative, and sometimes they forget about unsafe activities due to drink and/or drugs. Maybe you should stay out of forums where you don't belong.

Neither symptoms nor the lack of symptoms will ever tell you a single thing about your hiv status. ONLY testing at the appropriate time will.

If you cannot bring yourself to believe that you did not have a risk, then go test and collect your negative result. You should be testing at least once a year anyway.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:

You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together.

To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex without a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through the condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence.

ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT NEED TO TEST FOR HIV SPECIFICALLY OVER PROTECTED INTERCOURSE, anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results.

Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv. Some of the other STIs can be present with no obvious symptoms, so the only way to know for sure is to test.

Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

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Re: Unprotected Insertive Anal PEP
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2017, 09:46:27 AM »
I'm going to stick to cold hard facts and keep any "stupid me" comments out.

Scenario first, then my questions. Thanks in advance to the good people here taking the time to respond.

19th December: I had insertive anal sex twice with the same person in Thailand in the same evening. Unprotected. Unknown status (claims negative)

33:00 Hours later from the 1st intercourse (about 26 hours from the second session) I began PEP Tenofovir + Emtricitabine & Endurant. HIV Test = Negative

For 6 days (20th - 26th December) I enjoyed the Christmas festivities had some late nights and all that come with that (alcohol)

9 days post exposure I come down with a fever, swollen glands (neck only)and sweating. It lasts 12 hours & then subsides. It's followed by a sore throat + sunburn style rash on back of my neck which subsides 24 hours later and is replaced by a chesty cold/viral style infection for 6 days.

14 days post exposure Fully recovered.

I'm now on day 26 of PEP and feeling pretty good. Although I do seem to feel tired about an hour after my PEP meds. I have taken them religiously throughout the course, never missing a dose and always on time (within 10 minutes).

My questions are:

Is 9 days too soon for seroconversion?

Is one likely to even experience ARS symptoms while on PEP?

Does ARS (if infected) usually occur on completion of PEP?

Does my sunburn style rash sound like HIV ? (I have read Rash is common on Endurant)

Thanks

PS: I talked to a doctor (not the one who gave PEP). He said that it was generally too early for ARS and much more likely I have picked up a more common upper respiratory infection.

Is that opinion supported by the community here? I'm rather concerned about the unfortunate coincidence of symptoms and exposure.









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Re: Unprotected Insertive Anal PEP
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2017, 09:52:49 AM »
Hi

Look HIV does not cause a sore throat or a chesty infection and we don't discuss symptoms here anyway.  As for the rash could be anything if your concerned see a doctor.

You had a risk and are taking PEP so test 13 weeks post completing PEP also make sure to test for other easier to transmit STI's and move on with your life. Going forward use condoms and test at least yearly for STI's and HIV.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions.

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as ‘safe’ in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

More information on HIV Basics, PEP, TaSP and Transmission can be found through the links in my signature to our POZ pages, this includes information on HIV Testing

Kind regards

Jim

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Re: Unprotected Insertive Anal PEP
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2017, 10:10:53 AM »
Jim, Thank you for merging my earlier question from 4 years ago. I will follow your advice and test 13 weeks post exposure.

Would you or someone else mind addressing these questions if you know the answer?

Is 9 days too soon for seroconversion?

Is one likely to even experience ARS symptoms while on PEP?

Does ARS (if infected) usually occur on completion of PEP or During PEP?

Thank you.


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Re: Unprotected Insertive Anal PEP
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2017, 10:27:26 AM »
Hi

The symptoms you mentioned are not ARS I've explained that. Whatever they are its not HIV related, that does not mean you are HIV negative only testing will tell at the correct time.

Most people do not experience any symptoms despite wild claims on the internet that you may grow an additional head, wings and horns.

There is nothing we can add to your questions as your questions are simply irrelevant when it come to HIV as your questions are based on the notion that you will have or would experience ARS when in fact that is not the case.

Test 13 weeks post completing PEP and move on.

Jim

 

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