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Author Topic: HIV/homosexuality in Islamic countries  (Read 1677 times)

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Offline mikeyb39

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HIV/homosexuality in Islamic countries
« on: November 25, 2012, 09:03:42 AM »
I was just reading thru some of the 'Ask the doctors' questons on the thebody and came across below 'Plea' i guess you could say.  It really saddens me to see someone in this situation.  I can't imagine dealing with HIV and also having to worry about getting kicked out of the country you live or not being able to get medical attention.

I guess i take a lot for granted, sometimes life can be shitty, but when you read something like this it sort of puts things back in prospective.

Hi, I am from Egypt (homosexual and HIV positive). I was living in Saudi Arabia for 5 years from 2007 to 2011 and I got HIV infected there in an incident of sexual assault. I was not able to present a complaint to the police because Saudi is an Islamic country and they punish all homosexuals. After six months I went to the hospital to check and they told that I was HIV positive and they warned me that I should leave the country before they informed the ministry of health. I left my money, my work, my clothes and my car and came back to Egypt again to face my fate with my family and community. The problem which I face here in Egypt is that my family and the community have not accepted me as a homosexual or my HIV status. I can't work in Egypt because they ask me for a medical report. Please help me to live, to feel that I am human. Now I've been in Egypt for 7 months and my CD4 declined from 800 to 600. I got to know a person in one of the psychosocial support groups who is in the same situation and he became my boyfriend. He was expelled from the house because he is sick and gay and recently when his mother died he was prevented from attending the funeral. I called his older brother and his father and I pressed and they approved that he attend the funeral for 15 minutes . I'm still moving from job to job, afraid of discovery about my disease. I've sent many messages to human rights organizations all over the world and all the response I get is that they cannot help me if I am out their country. I tried to get a visa for the UK but they refused my request. I have another lovely kind man in Spain who tried to help me and my boy friend to get out of Egypt. One of the reasons I want to get out is because of medication which is not available on an ongoing basis. I saw with my own eyes with my friend whose CD4 was 50. He received a full dose in the first full month but in the second they apologized to us and said there was no medicine. We asked our friends in support groups to donate a part of their medicine to my boy friend. Please if you have any chance to help us, please do it. Thanks

11/02/2010  cd4-251, vl-591000
12/09/2010  started Atripla
02/18/2011  cd4-425, vl-800
06/10/2011  cd4-447, vl-70
10/10/2011  cd4-666, vl-80
01/05/2012  swiched med (prezista,norvir ,isentress, )
02/10/2012  cd4-733, vl-UD  Viread removed
06/10/2012  cd4-614, vl-UD
12/14/2012  cd4-764, vl-UD
09/01/2013  cd4-785, vl-UD
03/06/2014. cd4- 1078, VL-UD
09/05/2014  cd4-850 , VL-UD
09/05/2014 switched meds isentress, prezcobix -still only two antivirals
10/14/2015  cd4-600 , VL-UD

Offline mecch

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Re: HIV/homosexuality in Islamic countries
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2012, 06:58:00 PM »
 From the unicef page:

Egypt: Population 15-24 year-olds who have comprehensive correct knowledge of HIV/AIDS and who reject major misconceptions about HIV transmission:
Females: 4.8% -
Males: 18.3%

Egpyt is prime for a growing epidemic and its sad, yes.

I get at least 6 pleas a year from guys in North Africa, on the european gay cruise site I use.  1 or 2 from Eastern Europe.  Many many from sub-Saharan Africa.

Saudi Arabia is a disaster for guest worker rights. And for all gay - lesbian issues. And for many human rights issues generally. As you know.  However, Saudi citizens do get HIV treatment.  But yeah only citizens.
“From each, according to his ability; to each, according to his need” 1875 K Marx

Offline Ann

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Re: HIV/homosexuality in Islamic countries
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2012, 07:19:55 AM »
Mike, I've moved your thread from the Off Topic forum to the Living forum. Off Topic is for topics unrelated to hiv only.

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Offline tednlou2

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Re: HIV/homosexuality in Islamic countries
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2012, 02:52:42 PM »
It is sad that this happens.  I remember a news story from a couple years ago.  A young guy was gang raped in Dubai.  Instead of going after the men and treating this young guy as the victim, they went after him for engaging in homosexual sex. 

Offline spacebarsux

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Re: HIV/homosexuality in Islamic countries
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2012, 02:36:18 AM »
This is a pretty sad state of affairs. Apparently, Pakistan is no better. They get their HIV meds from India and there seem to be recurring shortages in their stockpile. Medical staff is also shockingly inept.

Of course, the existence of homosexuality is entirely denied and thus all ancillary issues remain unaddressed.
« Last Edit: November 27, 2012, 02:38:27 AM by spacebarsux »
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