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Author Topic: Seeking HIV treatment clues in Neem Trees  (Read 2768 times)

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Offline ichigo_kun

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Seeking HIV treatment clues in Neem Trees
« on: April 22, 2012, 07:42:40 PM »
Preliminary data hint at how extracts from the tree, abundant in tropical and subtropical areas, may stop the virus from multiplying
Tall, with dark-green pointy leaves, the neem tree of India is known as the "village pharmacy." As a child growing up in metropolitan New Delhi, Sonia Arora recalls on visits to rural areas seeing villagers using neem bark to clean their teeth. Arora's childhood memories have developed into a scientific fascination with natural products and their power to cure illnesses.

Now an assistant professor at Kean University in New Jersey, Arora is delving into understanding the curative properties of the neem tree in fighting the virus that causes AIDS. She will be presenting her data at a poster session at 12:25 p.m. Sunday, April 22, at the Experimental Biology 2012 meeting in San Diego. Her preliminary results seem to indicate that there are compounds in neem extracts that target a protein essential for HIV to replicate. If further studies support her findings, Arora's work may give clinicians and drug developers a new HIV-AIDS therapy to pursue.

Extracts from neem leaves, bark and flowers are used throughout the Indian subcontinent to fight against pathogenic bacteria and fungi. "The farther you go into the villages of India, the more uses of neem you see," says Arora. Tree branches are used instead of toothpaste and toothbrushes to keep teeth and gums healthy, and neem extracts are used to control the spread of malaria.

Practitioners of Ayurvedic medicine, a form of traditional Indian alternative medicine, even prescribe neem extracts, in combination with other herbs, to treat cardiovascular diseases and control diabetes. The neem tree, whose species name is Azadirachta indica and which belongs to the mahogany family, also grows in east Africa.

Arora's scientific training gave her expertise in the cellular biology of cancer, pharmacology, bioinformatics and structural biology. When she established her laboratory with a new research direction at Kean University in 2008, Arora decided to combine her knowledge with her long-time fascination with natural products. The neem tree beckoned.

Arora dived into the scientific literature to see what was known about neem extracts. During the course of her reading, Arora stumbled across two reports that showed that when HIV-AIDS patients in Nigeria and India were given neem extracts, the amount of HIV particles in their blood dropped. Intrigued, Arora decided to see if she could figure out what was in the neem extract that seemed to fight off the virus.

She turned to bioinformatics and structural biology to see what insights could be gleaned from making computer models of HIV proteins with compounds known to be in neem extracts. From the literature, she and her students found 20 compounds present in various types of neem extracts. When they modeled these compounds against the proteins critical for the HIV life-cycle, Arora and her team discovered that most of the neem compounds attacked the HIV protease, a protein essential for making new copies of the virus.

Arora's group is now working on test-tube experiments to see if the computer models hold up with actual samples. If her work bears out, Arora is hopeful that the neem tree will give a cheaper and more accessible way to fight the HIV-AIDS epidemic in developing countries, where current therapies are priced at levels out of reach of many people. "And, of course," she notes, "there is the potential of discovering new drugs based on the molecules present in neem."


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Re: Seeking HIV treatment clues in Neem Trees
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2012, 02:55:30 PM »
In India, they're obsessed with the medicinal properties of neem to the point of blind faith; they'll tell you it cures anything.
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Offline MitchMiller

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Re: Seeking HIV treatment clues in Neem Trees
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2012, 12:52:44 AM »
I ordered mine already.  Will add to my 30 pill regimen.

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Re: Seeking HIV treatment clues in Neem Trees
« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2012, 01:05:09 AM »
i got a bottle of neem oil for christmas that is supposed to kill off fleas or ward them away from the dogs or something; but I don't see that it does anything -except stink. LOL Sounds like just another wild stretch (with a lot of "maybes" and "perhaps" and no real proof) when we know antiretrovirals work just fine.

Will add to my 30 pill regimen.
wow. that's about how many I just to take way back in 1995 when they hardly knew what they were doing to stop HIV LOL. Now I take 4 pills a day (no vitamins either, they make me puke) and am doing just fine. Sounds like you and your doctor should be figuring out how to lower the amount of stuff you're taking, not adding to it. just saying ;) (especially too since I keep  talking to newbies all upset about taking one pill a day, it seems funny to read about someone bragging about 30 pills a day. go figure. LOL )
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Offline yourfinalfantasy

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Re: Seeking HIV treatment clues in Neem Trees
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2017, 04:45:11 PM »
In India, they're obsessed with the medicinal properties of neem to the point of blind faith; they'll tell you it cures anything.
i take my medication everyday i got some kind of infection in my throat took multiple antibiotics it would not go away was fighting it for 2 months untill i took neem it was gone in 12 hours say what you want about it works it's strong whenever my friend feel sick upset stomach whatever with one capsule of neem leaf gone i'm not saying it's a cure-all but it works damn well i take daily now with my meds for added immune system support looking forward to my next labs to see what my cd4 count is now been undetectable for years but cd4 can fluctuate will report back and let you know how my experiment goes

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Re: Seeking HIV treatment clues in Neem Trees
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2017, 07:18:45 PM »
Anecdotal sore throat, unknown cause finally cured after treatment with time & the correct antibiotics, big leap of faith as it lacks proof to put this down to tree leaf pills instead of the treatment undergone. 

The proof offered is an uncontrolled test expecting CD4 fluctuations,keeping in mind that even if there is a jump in CD4 it means nothing at all anyway as CD4's fluctuate even between bathroom visits or a cigarette break to start with.

This is not an experiment its just called messing about.

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Offline CaveyUK

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Re: Seeking HIV treatment clues in Neem Trees
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2017, 02:03:06 PM »
Well if there is something in it, I'll look forward to the full, controlled, double blind placebo-driven study.

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