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Offline roma123

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excessive Pre-cum - rubbing/frottage
« on: November 18, 2011, 04:19:46 PM »
Hi there

I was hoping you could assess my situation.

Iím a 23 year old UK guy and I met a guy and went on a few dates with him. Each time we ended up at his and engaged in mutual pleasuring / frottage - the last time I saw him was on October 18th. We did not engage in oral as I do not like giving/receiving oral. Now this guy pre-cums a lot and I know his pre-cum got on my anus (sorry to be blunt) - he did not penetrate me. 

Assuming this guy is positive, I was wondering whether him getting his pre-cum on my man hole / the pink flesh  (sorry to be so blunt) put me at risk of contracting HIV? I had minor cuts from shaving earlier on in the day, would pre-cum getting on any cuts cause infection?

I went to a clinic for a full STD test and they did a HIV test on me. The HIV test was different from the one Iíve usually done. I  have usually had a rapid HIV test in my past check ups where you get the result back immediately but with this HIV test I had to wait 15/20 mins to get my result. The blood result came back negative. I took the test on 15th November -  28 days after my last pre-cum encounter with the guy. 

Iíve been ill this past week - temperature, tongue ulcer, sore throat, coughing, sneezing and I am very congested - but my symptoms are clearing up quickly.

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Re: excessive Pre-cum - rubbing/frottage
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2011, 04:30:04 PM »
For HIV transmission to take place in sex it has to be unprotected penetrative anal or vaginal sex.

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Re: excessive Pre-cum - rubbing/frottage
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2011, 05:17:51 PM »
RapidRod is right. There is absolutely NO risk for HIV in the situation you described.
"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

-Kimberly Page-Shafer, PhD, MPH

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Re: excessive Pre-cum - rubbing/frottage
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2014, 08:58:52 AM »
Hi all

Just a of quick question;

If an individual is diagnosed with syphilis and they engage only in frottage what is the likelihood of acquiring HIV if pre cum were to come into contact with an open sore in say the bum region - not inside the anus - and mouth.

I've read syphilis actually raises the stakes in acquiring hiv however the only activity engaged in is frottage and maybe a little oral (no cum in mouth, precum possibly)with several people prior to diagnosis. No unprotected sex was ever involved in any of these instances at all.

I'm going to get tested regardless for HIV as it's been awhile.


« Last Edit: June 06, 2014, 09:26:29 AM by roma123 »

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Re: excessive Pre-cum - rubbing/frottage
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2014, 01:02:58 PM »
Roma, having syphilis does increase vulnerability to HIV transmission, but only via unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse. Sexually those are the only confirmed risks for HIV transmission. HIV is a fragile virus and is not transmitted through frottage outside of the anus. Or through oral sex.

Getting tested regularly is a good idea to confirm your negative status and should include testing for all STDs by anyone who is sexually active.

Good luck to you. As far as HIV is concerned I expect you to test negative.
Andy Velez

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Re: excessive Pre-cum - rubbing/frottage
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2014, 12:22:57 PM »

So a week ago I went on a great date with a guy (met on Tinder) and as some great dates go we ended up sleeping together  ::). I asked his status and he said negative - although he is rather promiscuous(he's had a sexual awakening apparently since he came out this year) he assured me he always uses protection. So as with anyone I date/ sleep with who is promiscuous/ hasn't had a recent test I treat them as positive until we test together.

Anyway, so he did oral on me. I don't do oral (bad gums as my dentist puts it). I had a fresh cut on my penis. He managed to cut his lip (blood) in the process (don't know how) - was there any blood risk there with it getting on my cut?

Also I suffer from terrible mouth ulcers (attractive I know) constantly - I have my darling mother to thank for that great inheritance. Any chance of any exposure of his blood on my mouth ulcers?

We did a lot of frottage, me rubbing against his backside and him against mine. I'm a bottom so naturally he rubbed himself against my backside, he didn't penetrate me unprotected (although he was starting to get carried away- stopped him). He had a lot of pre-cum so it got everywhere. He ended up pleasuring me with his pre-cum covered fingers, any chance of risk of pre-cum exposure if it got inside me? I've read that it's practically next to none.

We got down to the act. I bottomed. Pre-cum still around my anus. We used a condom and plenty of water based lube. He didn't ejaculate at all. Checked the condom afterwards - no tear (that would have been noticeable) and checked for holes (filled it with water) none that I could see.

I've been rather I'll since but I'm putting that down to the weather (it's taken a turn for the worst).

So I know I'm pretty much guessing no risk exposure with the above situation?

I test near enough every three months - last test was negative in August. I'll test again regardless as I know plenty of other STI's can be contracted.

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Re: excessive Pre-cum - rubbing/frottage
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2014, 12:31:10 PM »
Only post in this one thread and do not start another one no matter how long between visits or the subject matter . You can find this thread by going to your profile and selecting show own post and it will take you here .

Getting a blow job is not a risk for HIV even with a small cut, its not a risk . Rubbing and frottage are not risk for HIV . Please read this thread and you will see all your concerns have been addressed already . 
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