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Author Topic: Glans to glans transmission? Frottage? Pre-cum?  (Read 6261 times)

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Offline morningstarbound

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Glans to glans transmission? Frottage? Pre-cum?
« on: January 23, 2011, 09:32:48 PM »
I hooked up with a guy I met last night. I was sick of being a virgin (complete and totalÖ absolutely nothing before last night) and decided I wanted some sort of sexual interaction. I brought condoms in case things went beyond mutual masturbation. He was older, and I think his risk factor may have been fairly high. I think he might be positive (for a few reasonsÖ more than ordinary fear or paranoia, but less than absolute empirical certainty).

Things did not go beyond mutual masturbation (reciprocal handjobs), but we did engage in frottage for a few minutes. The glans of our circumcised penises were in contact while he lay on top of me and masturbated us both. Itís possible our urethral openings might have grazed. We used lube, but he might have had pre-cum. I think he did, but I could not tell how much was lube and how much was pre-cum. He didnít come on me / in me. He didnít come until he masturbated himself later.

Should I worry about HIV from this level of contact? I plan to get tested for anything else should symptoms develop, or is there a general, all-purpose STD test I can take now or in the future to ease my state of mind? As I said, this was my first sexual encounter with anyone.

 Iíve learned that the likelihood of HIV infection from this level of contact is astronomically small, if not practically impossible. Are these micro-percentages just experts/agencies erring on the side of caution because itís still theoretically possible (but without known precedent), or is there a small but real chance I might have contracted HIV in this manner? Is glans contact, urethral contact, or precum contact sufficient exposure?

Iím trying to be calm and rational about the realistically small likelihood of HIV infection (if he is positive), but I would like some reassurance, some certainty, if any can be given. Thanks in advance.

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Re: Glans to glans transmission? Frottage? Pre-cum?
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2011, 10:09:46 PM »

 Iíve learned that the likelihood of HIV infection from this level of contact is astronomically small, if not practically impossible.

Short answer: No risk whatsoever for HIV in the activities you describe.

"Many people, especially in the gay community, turn to oral sex as a safer alternative in the age of AIDS. And with HIV rates rising, people need to remember that oral sex is safer sex. It's a reasonable alternative."

-Kimberly Page-Shafer, PhD, MPH

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Re: Glans to glans transmission? Frottage? Pre-cum?
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2011, 08:15:15 AM »
Nothing you did put you at risk for HIV transmission. In fact since you are just beginning to become sexually active, you need to know that the only confirmed risks for the sexual transmission of HIV are unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse.

As long as you consistently use condoms for those activities you will be well protected. No exceptions, no matter what you think you know about the person's history or how great they look. Condoms are a must everytime. As long as you do that even if your partner is HIV+, you will be well protected.

Andy Velez

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Re: Glans to glans transmission? Frottage? Pre-cum?
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2011, 03:38:42 PM »
Are there unconfirmed risks associated with frottage? I mean, is it mechanically impossible to sexually transmit HIV without penetration? Barring open sores / cuts, is it impossible to get HIV from penis-on-penis contact through urethral mucus membranes? Is there even a .001 chance (which would necessitate getting tested)?

Thanks for the replies; I promise I won't continue to ask for reassurance beyond this post.

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Re: Glans to glans transmission? Frottage? Pre-cum?
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2011, 05:48:53 PM »
HIV is not transmitted by frottage. HIV is transmitted by, unprotected vaginal and anal sex and mother to child.

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Re: Glans to glans transmission? Frottage? Pre-cum?
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2011, 06:02:36 PM »
Any sexual act other than with your own hand may "theoretically" be risky.

But in the real world of HIV we know that only unprotected vaginal and anal intercourse have been confirmed to be a means of transmitting the virus.

You are worrying without any basis in HIV science.

Andy Velez


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