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Author Topic: "Labels" and Classification  (Read 2060 times)

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Offline Seeker

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"Labels" and Classification
« on: November 20, 2009, 09:16:27 pm »
Would appreciate some feedback...I undertand that we talk a lot about CD 4 numbers and the difference between being HIV+ and the somewhat arbitrary 200 range for AIDS....guess I thought you were "one or the other"...since my count was 198 when I got my test results then after a month on atripla numbers improved to 248 I thought of myself again as HIV+ but in one of her responses to another question recently Ann gave me the impression that it's widely held that once your numbers are low enough to be regarded as having AIDS then you are always in that category even if your numbers increase....again--not to make a point of labels--maybe it's a personal thing--for me I prefer to think of myself as being HIV+, ---would appreciate your reactions....
tested positive Aug 2009
Sept 2009   CD4  198  VL  13,090
started Atripla
Oct 2009    CD4  248   VL  820
Feb 10    CD4  237   VL  undetectable
Jun 10    CD4  341   VL  un
Oct 10    CD4  281   VL  un
Mar 11    CD4  344   VL  un
Jan 12    CD4  334    VL  30
Jun 12    CD4  347    VL  20
Nov 12   CD 4  349   VL  undetectable
Apr 13    CD 4  340   VL  un
Oct 13    CD 4  387   VL  un
Apr 14    CD4   356   VL  un
Oct 14    CD4   389   VL  un
Nov 14   changed to Triumeq
Feb 15    CD 4  410   VL  un
Aug 15    CD 4  349   VL  un
Feb 16    CD 4  399   VL  un
Aug 16    CD 4  351   VL  un
Feb 17    CD 4  420   VL   un
Aug 17    CD 4  409   VL  un
Feb 18    CD 4  386   VL  un
Aug 18    CD 4  384   VL  un
Feb 19    CD 4   335  VL  un
Aug 19    CD 4  424   VL  un

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Re: "Labels" and Classification
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2009, 09:35:25 pm »
Strictly speaking the CDC uses the A-C 1-3 classification which can be found here:


Strictly speaking again, because stopping treatment would soon see you return to your pre-treatment state of immune health, the lowest/worst ever classification is the diagnosis.

But in real life this is poppycock. Ill people/people with CD4 under 200 are usually said to have AIDS, my clinic notes say I was diagnosed with A3 HIV infection, current status A2 and don't mention AIDS. Likewise my clinic would probably not count bacterial pneumonia or candidiasis as AIDS-defining conditions. There you go. It is indeed a label. Sometimes it is necessary for entitlement/historical monitoring purposes.

- matt
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Re: "Labels" and Classification
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2009, 09:40:18 pm »
you might want to check out the discussion in this thread define low cd4 and aids
leatherman (aka mIkIE)

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