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Offline exception101

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Thailand incident
« on: September 17, 2009, 08:20:42 PM »
Hello everyone,

For the last 5 years of my life I have put myself through hell. A day does not go by when I do not think about this event. My risk happened in Thailand at a strip club.  I was very nervous because I did not want to be at the strip club in the first place. It was very small and dirty and seemed shady to say the least. I was there with my friends so I played along.  A stripper came up to me and asked if I wanted a dance and I said no. She said fine but still took a seat next to me. She kept persisting until I finally had to yell at her to stop bothering me. She said fine, told me I am a fucking pussy, and then said you will be sorry you didn't get a dance. She didn't leave but stayed in the seat next to mine. She stopped bothering me so I didn't care. I had been given a glass bottle of beer when I noticed the stripper rubbing her fingers on the top of my bottle. I did not think much of it until I took a sip. She had rubbed blood on the area of the bottle where I had drank from. I know this because I tasted blood and ran to the bathroom to make sure, my lips had visible blood on them. Now at first I thought the blood was mine because my lips had been very very chapped and were bleeding no more than 2 minutes before the incident. I figured I was just seeing things so I went back in to tell my friends I wanted to leave. When I sat back down I saw the stripper there with a lancet in her hand.  She just smiled at me and said "I told you you would be sorry". At this point I freaked out and ran out of the club. I was in shock and could not believe what had just happened.

I have ready that HIV does not survive well in the environment but this was fresh blood and I had a fresh wound on my lips. I was thinking about doing PEP but was too scared to even go to the doctor. After the incident (about 2 weeks) I got very sick with flu like symptoms (fever, sore throat, etc). I also had painful lymph nodes in my neck, armpits, and groin area. About 4 to 5 months after the incident the painful lymph nodes came back. At first they were on and off, but after about a year, I started having pain in my nodes every day. I am still dealing with this pain as I sit here right now (5 years later). This is the reason I still think about this incident all the time. The lymph node pain does not go away and I am certain I am HIV+. Everyday I wake up with painful swollen lymph nodes and it is ruining my life. A few other symptoms I have is that for the last year I have jock itch on my groin and surrounding my anal area and it will not go away with medication. I also have fungal infections on my feet and white tongue all the time. I have also had stomach pain, stomach growling everyday, and diarrhea for the last 6 months. I am too scared to get tested or go to the doctor because I am sure I am infected.

The reason I am sending this message today is because recently I began seeing a girl for the first time in my life. I had been a virgin up until now because of fear of infecting someone else. I had also never had oral sex or done any drugs. About 2 weeks ago I had protected vaginal sex with the girl. We have also had unprotected oral sex about 10 times (I received and ejaculated in her mouth, she swallowed). I have read that oral sex is low risk but today she showed up at my house sick as a dog so I freaked out. Her lymph nodes were very swollen throughout her body and she has a very high fever, sore throat, muscle aches, and a white coated tongue. I am certain I have infected her and I cannot live with myself.

I understand I may seem dramatic or crazy but please honestly assess my risk. I am sick of living my life like this but in my mind I am 100% sure I am infected with HIV. I hate my life because all I think about is being HIV positive. My lymph nodes would not be painful for this long and if it was something else like cancer I would be dead by now. I am sorry for the long post but this has been bothering me for 5 long years. I appreciate your web site very much and am looking forward to your replies. Thank you very much.
« Last Edit: September 17, 2009, 08:35:23 PM by exception101 »

Offline RapidRod

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Re: Thailand incident
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2009, 09:03:01 PM »
HIV is transmitted by:
Unprotected vaginal and anal sex
Sharing works with other IV drug abusers
Mother to child.

Offline exception101

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Re: Thailand incident
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2009, 09:30:20 PM »
Thank you for your reply. I just don't want to infect anyone else. My symptoms are driving me crazy. I don't fully understand how I could not be infected like this. It was fresh blood and I had a wound. In your opinion, or anyone else's who is willing to give feedback,  is it 100% safe for me without any doubt to have unprotected sex with my girlfriend which I adore if neither of us have had any previous risk except for the one I have provided here today? Thank you

Offline RapidRod

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Re: Thailand incident
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2009, 09:52:12 PM »
You were never at risk of contracting HIV in the situation you've provided.

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Re: Thailand incident
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2009, 08:25:32 AM »
Even IF the woman in your incident was HIV+ and even IF you had gotten some of the blood in your mouth, your saliva contains over a dozen elements and proteins which are very effective in preventing the transmission of viable HIV.

It's sad that you have been worrying needlessly for such a long time over a totally non-risky event.

Take a breath and get on with your life. And remember to always without exception use condoms when you have vaginal or anal intercourse.

Andy Velez

Offline exception101

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Re: Thailand incident
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2009, 12:06:07 AM »
Thank you for your reply Andy. I understand the mouth is not an easy place for the virus to stay alive. My worry is the wound I had on my lips. Which had been bleeding due to chapped lips (I had a cigarette in my mouth and when I took it out it ripped my skin open and it started to bleed since it was so dry). I actually noticed the wound when I went into the bathroom. Would this still pose no risk? It just doesn't make sense to me that fresh blood getting into contact with my wound is absolutely no risk.
I think about this incident and how sick that stripper was for ruining my life every day. I am no longer the same person I used to be and I wish I could just be normal again. It is the symptoms I just can't shake. Going on for 5 years unexplained.

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Re: Thailand incident
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2009, 06:24:40 AM »

Why don't you just go test, collect your negative result and get it over with? The woman was playing with your head. Hiv is not transmitted in the way you describe. She sure did what she said she would - you've been sorry for five years now. It's high time you stopped being a whimp and took your power back from her. Go test, prove her wrong, and get on with your life. Sadly, you'll never get back those five years of anxiety over nothing.

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Offline Someone_help

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Re: Thailand incident
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2009, 06:49:01 PM »
I am curious to know why you wouldn't get tested for over 5 years? Considering it's obviously been bothering you even though you didn't have a risk.

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Re: Thailand incident
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2009, 06:52:31 PM »
Do not post in any other threads other than your own. Take the time to read the posting guidelines of this forum.

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Re: Thailand incident
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2009, 08:26:27 PM »
Excep, I strongly agree with Ann's suggestion that you get tested. I don't have any doubts about a negative result. You've just been lugging around this unnecessary concern for so long, I am not sure you will be able to let it go without having that negative test result in your hand.

Do it, get it over with and get on with your life.

Keep us posted.
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