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Offline eros1969

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Help to asses my situation
« on: September 04, 2009, 10:17:08 PM »
This is a great forum and I am enjoying to read Ann, Andy and other moderators and happy to see RapidRod is firm in his assessments as he does in other forum as well.

I know your possible answer to my questions but being father of 2 kids and a married man, I still need some more advice which help me to accept my situation gradually. Obviously, I do not want to infect my wife.

I am a hetero, circumcised, healthy and have healthy gums. In May 9, 2009, I had a sexual adventure with a clean professional lady. We had protected vaginal sex, I had given her a very short lick on clits and I get long UNPROTECTED oral sex from her. The day after I became had lots concerns that I might caught a virus. I had following tests.

- At 4 weeks Elisa test for all STDs including Hiv - negative
- At 6 weeks Elisa test- negative
- At 45 days Abbott ASXYM Combo Ab and Ag -negative
- At 59 days Abbott ASXYM Combo Ab and Ag- negative

I wanted to make further test at 3 months, however, the doctor I see is one of top HIV scientist and specialist, he told me go and get physocological help, and adviced that statistically my risk was extremely low to zero and event if I had a extremely risky encounter, Hiv combo tests at two weeks interval at 6 weeks would 100% caught it.

I just want to you guys to asses my situation as well since you are very experienced and I believe some of you are fighting with this virus, and your opinion will be highly valuable and appreciated. By habit I do donation to all website I pose questons and I could not figure out how to do here. Please guide me how to make a donation here.

My respect and regards all of you

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Re: Help to asses my situation
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2009, 10:27:31 PM »
UK Guidelines is 3 months post exposure even with the use of a DUO test.


The need for a repeat HIV test if still within the window period after a specific exposure should be
discussed. Although fourth generation tests shorten the time from exposure to seroconversion a repeat test at three months is still recommended to definitively exclude HIV infection.

Offline eros1969

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Re: Help to asses my situation
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2009, 10:47:52 PM »
To: RapidRod

I have difficulty to understand UK guidelines which clealry says 4ht genaration assays tests reduce windows perdiod to a month and clearly says these asssays shorten windwos period a week to two weeks earleir then 3rd generation assays, however, suggests concluisve tests period for high risks behavoiur to be determined by specialists/doctors. I did Combo tests in France, CDA of france (Haute Authorite Sante) sugests 6 weeks concluisve and furhtermore, logic says if concluisve period for 3rd genration tests is 3 months then 4ht generation should have shorter windows period. I guess issues the producers of tests do not pronounce 4 or 6 weeks is concluisve unless see extensive data in long period of time...

My question is given my situation, do I need further tests or not..?

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Re: Help to asses my situation
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2009, 10:50:16 PM »
3 months...

Offline eros1969

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Re: Help to asses my situation
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2009, 10:53:02 PM »
To: RapidRod

You have been advocating that oral does not cary any HIV risks. I did protected vaginal sex and UNPROTCTED oral sex..

Offline RapidRod

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Re: Help to asses my situation
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2009, 10:57:18 PM »
I'm sorry for not reading your thread correctly. Then you know the answers you didn't have a risk and didn't need testing.

Offline eros1969

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Re: Help to asses my situation
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2009, 11:30:59 PM »

By curiosity I have just tried to read UK HIV testing guideline, english my 4th language and I may have missed it. It did not find any specific comments to refer testing at 3rd month rahther there is a bellow paragraph

"Although with fourth generation tests infection can be detected much earlier than previously
(see section on primary screening assays), in very recent infection when patients may be most
symptomatic the test may be negative. In this scenario, if PHI is suspected, either urgent referral to
specialist services (GU clinic or HIV service) or a repeat test in seven days is recommended. HIV viral load
testing can be used in this clinical setting, but it is recommended that this is only performed with specialist input."

Would you please kindly tell me page number refers 3 months.

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Re: Help to asses my situation
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2009, 11:42:33 PM »
  Post-test discussion for individuals who test HIV negative  Page 11

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Re: Help to asses my situation
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2009, 07:48:16 AM »

The bottom line here is that you did NOT have a risk for hiv infection. Getting a blowjob is NOT a risk for hiv infection. Not one person has ever been infected this way and you won't be the first.  Licking a clit is also not a risk for hiv infection.

You did the right thing and use a condom for intercourse. Condoms have been proven to prevent hiv infection.

You do not need further testing. You do not have hiv.

I agree with the hiv specialist you spoke to. If you cannot let this go and accept the fact that you had no risk, and accept the fact that you do not have hiv, then it's time to seek psychological help. We cannot help you with that here.

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