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Offline J.R.E.

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4 transplants infected with HIV...
« on: November 13, 2007, 09:03:08 PM »

Four transplant patients infected with HIV in Chicago area

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Offline CowboyPOZ

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Re: 4 transplants infected with HIV...
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2007, 02:22:02 AM »
Humans make errors. With this said, how in the world does this happen in this day and age of the 20 minute stick tests? I was shocked it could happen.

Offline StrongGuy

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Re: 4 transplants infected with HIV...
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2007, 02:50:24 AM »
Another day in the media's obsession with fear-mongering. The hysteria all becaus eof this fuck up and HIV being the disease de jour to make people run in fear. next thing they'll tell us the transplant screening team members are allpart of Al Qaeda. Thousands of fuck-ups a day in the hospital - and this is going to be the Larry King special for thenext week. Sigh.

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Offline Cerrid

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Re: 4 transplants infected with HIV...
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2007, 03:03:38 AM »
Initial tests on the donor for HIV, hepatitis and other conditions came back negative, most likely because the donor had acquired the infections in the last three weeks before death.

A matter of bad timing, I suppose. A similar thing happened in Italy about half a year ago, but the transplant receivers were put on PEP immediately after the mistake was noticed, shortly after the surgery. Dunno if it was any helpful. But I agree with Mike, as soon as HIV is involved, medical fuck-ups get an extraordinary touch. >:(

My doc advised me to destroy my organ donor pass when I was diagnosed. Instead, now I carry a laminated emergency card describing my meds. Still, there's always a risk that things go awry.
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Offline bocker3

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Re: 4 transplants infected with HIV...
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2007, 07:37:21 AM »
From what I've read and heard, it doesn't appear to be a "hospital fuck up", but rather a case of bad timing.  Apparently all of the donor's tests came back negative.  Perhaps he was newly infected.  I am not up on all of the tests performed on an organ donor, but it sounds like they are only doing antibody tests.  Perhaps that needs to change, if it is the case.

Of course, it could be a major fuck up and people are trying to cover their asses.

As for getting all upset about the media blowing this up -- I've stopped getting upset about the media.  As long as people read and discuss stories, the media will continue doing what they do.  I don't think that it is only HIV/AIDS stories that get more press than they should -- think about MRSA, bird flu, Ebola outbreaks, or even Britney Spears and others of her ilk -- we all are just more sensitive to the HIV/AIDS stories.

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Offline emeraldize

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Re: 4 transplants infected with HIV...
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2007, 10:41:09 AM »
Had a poz clinic appt. this a.m. and this was the topic du jour with my nurse. He had another perspective or two. First, the technology exists that would have allowed the surgeons to have tested prior to surgery but that most don't have it because of the expense. And second, which is more to the point overall, the recipient patient is the one who assumes the risk. My nurse said, were it his personal decision as recipient, he'd take the organ ('cause that's so often NOT available) and deal with the HIV if it were to occur. His contention is that the organ availability, surgery and post-surgery are bigger hurdles than the HIV.

Offline thunter34

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Re: 4 transplants infected with HIV...
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2007, 03:36:40 PM »
A great number of HIV positive people still list themselves as "organ donors" on their driver's licenses because it costs you half as much if you say you'll be a donor...and many are scratching by on disability and having to save cash at any turn they can. 
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