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Author Topic: ALTERNATIVE HIV TREATMENTS  (Read 2858 times)

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Offline aronross78

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« on: October 17, 2007, 03:26:47 AM »
I have a question. I have never been on meds before, but my viral load is getting up into the 100,000 range. My doctor said I may start thinking about meds. I have decided I want to hold off as long as I can, but I was curious if anyone out there has ever tried any alternative treatment. herbs, those sorts of things. just curious. Is there anything to help my viral load go down without having to starts the regular meds? just curious.

Offline frenchpat

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« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2007, 03:38:53 AM »
Hello Aron,

and welcome to the forums!

Alternative treatments threads appear regularly here as lots of us seek or have sought to avoid haart or try to offset side effects with complementary medicine or supplements. I would suggest you use the search function located near the upper left hand corner of the forums page and type "alternative" as a query. I am quite sure you will find a lot of information in the threads found, about what seems to help and also the latest in quackery.

Hope this helps


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Offline anniebc

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« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2007, 03:47:18 AM »
Hi Aron

Welcome to the forum....I had this tucked away in my paper work, I got it from the Net some time ago but can't remember what site it was from...not sure if it's what you are looking for


Many people use complementary (sometimes known as alternative) health treatments to go along with the medical care they get from their doctor.

These therapies are called "complementary" therapies because usually they are used alongside the more standard medical care you receive (such as your doctor visits and the anti-HIV drugs you might be taking).

They are sometimes called "alternative" because they don't fit into the mainstream, Western ways of looking at medicine and health care. These therapies may not fit in with what you usually think of as "health care."

Some common complementary therapies include:

  Physical (body) therapies, such as yoga, massage, and acupuncture
  Relaxation techniques, such as meditation and visualization
With most complementary therapies, your health is looked at from a holistic (or "whole picture") point of view. Think of your body as working as one big system. From a holistic viewpoint, everything you do--from what you eat to what you drink to how stressed you are--affects your health and well-being.
Do these therapies work?
Healthy people use these kinds of therapies to try to make their immune systems stronger and to make themselves feel better in general. People who have diseases or illnesses, such as HIV, use these therapies for the same reasons. They also can use these therapies to help deal with symptoms of the disease or side effects from the medicines that treat the disease.

Many people report positive results from using complementary therapies. In most cases, however, there is not enough research to tell if these treatments really help people with HIV

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Offline aztecan

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« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2007, 10:16:50 AM »
Hey Aaron,

Welcome to the forums.

In regard to alternative therapies, I am sorry to say, the only method of keeping the virus at bay are the ARVs. To my knowledge, there are no alternatives that work.

Now, i use some herbs and other types of treatment along with my ARVs, which is usually referred to as complimentary therapy. To date, I think some of it has helped keep me from experiencing some of the problems the meds can cause. Of course, it could all be in my head too.

Check in with us and let us know how things are going.


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Offline allopathicholistic

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« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2007, 12:03:05 PM »
Hey aronross78, you asked:

Is there anything to help my viral load go down without having to starts the regular meds?

Here's your answer: No. Only proper FDA-approved meds reduce viral load. In adding to Mark's post above, the word complimentary is better than alternative. "Alternative", by definition, implies that one is willing to refute proven anti-HIV meds in favor of something else and that's a recipe for disaster. I know first-hand because I rolled the dice after my diagnosis in 2000. Are you scared of meds? Let us know, we'll hold your hand. Lots of people are/were scared of meds (I was terrified to the point of denial (not the river in Egypt)) so please realize if you're scared, you're not alone

Offline risred1

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« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2007, 08:29:31 PM »
There is one thing you can consider, and it may be the cause of your Viral Load to Spike.

If you have intestinal Parasites, such as Blastocystis hominis, it is possible that the immune response driven by the parasites is fueling your VL spike.

This did actually happen to me with a bout with Blasto, and my VL did literally jump into the 50k region. After successful treatment, my VL did come back down where it has been hovering in the teens.

Small incremental improvement or stabilization may also be possible with a full array of supplements which may boost your immune function in a manner that may provide some incremental change, but I would not be optimistic that you can get VL to drop significantly with Supps alone.

I know I'm playing a different tune, but I do fundamentally agree, that there is a time for meds. While I have made full use of supplements over the last 2 years, i have been able to only stablize my VL. I never approached a truly significant change on supps, only when I was treated with Antibiotics for the Blasto, did my VL drop to previous levels. My view of my supplementation is to keep my energy and CD4 up, my HIV induced diarrhea under control, and my Liver enzymes low. I believe the supplements are helping in those regards. But they don't seem to lower VL significantly.

Good luck and has been stated previously, this forum will help you with the transition to meds. i know I'll be making use of it when it is time.
risred1 - hiv +
02/07 CD4 404 - 27% - VL 15k
10/07 CD4 484 - 31% - VL 45k
05/08 CD4 414 - 26% - VL 70k
01/09 CD4 365 - 23% - VL 65k
05/09 CD4 291 - 23% - VL 115k - Started Meds - Reyataz/Truvada
06/09 CD4 394 - ?% - VL 1200 - Boosted Reyataz with Norvir and Truvada
07/09 CD4 441 - ?% - VL 118 - Boosted Reyataz with Norvir and Truvada
09/09 CD4 375 - ?% - VL Undetectable - Boosted Reyataz with Norvir and Truvada
12/09 CD4 595 - ?% - VL Undetectable - VIT D 34 - Reyataz/Truvada/Norvir


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