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Author Topic: probably worried well, sorry  (Read 2097 times)

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probably worried well, sorry
« on: August 21, 2007, 04:43:55 AM »
Hello all, this is a wonderful forum and I am very pleased I found it. Best wishes for all the work you do.  I shall try to keep it brief, and apologies in advance as I realize I am low risk and this is probably only an attempt to put my mind at ease.

The facts:
-   two occasions of protected intercourse and two occasions of protected oral with a CSW in the Middle East
-   CSW was on her period (with relatively light blood flow)
-   CSW complained of a temperature, sore throat and said alternately that she felt cold and hot in the room (room was air-conditioned)
-   after intercourse I used a tissue to remove the condoms and then stupidly used the same tissue to “clean” my penis/wipe down my pubic area
-   I found tiny bits of tissue under my foreskin a few hours later

My concerns:
-   she opened one of the condoms with her teeth and I am worried she put a small hole in it which was not obvious; also, I opened the other by tearing it but the tear was quite fierce and through the middle of the packet - same concern
-   she may have been recently infected with HIV and experiencing symptoms of ARS
-   I may have transferred some infected blood/vaginal fluid from the condom to my penis (including on bits of tissue that were then exposed to the inside of my foreskin for many hours)

-   could we have put holes in the condom when opening them? I have previously had a condom which had two small holes in the shaft which did not tear during intercourse (this was a few years back and the concern was pregnancy).  However, I have seen that you have said that any tear would result in the whole condom failing – I know this is not always the case, hence my concern…
-   could I have transferred the virus from the outside of the condom to my penis (including under my foreskin and there for many hours)? if she was recently infected the menstrual blood would have had a very high viral load.
-   how much risk do you think there is generally bearing mind the above?
-   finally, this all happened two weeks ago. I have had no symptoms of ARS to date – is that a good sign at all?

Thanks for all your help. As I said, best of luck with everything.

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Re: probably worried well, sorry
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2007, 06:25:00 AM »
hey, I would really love a response if possible, I am getting very worried about this!! thank you so much.

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Re: probably worried well, sorry
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2007, 06:37:15 AM »

I'm sorry your first post went unanswered - I'm not sure how that happened.

What happened to you previously with a holey condom is rare in the extreme as they do normally break if there are holes present. I don't think you have any worries about holes in this instance. Yes, the sex worker may have opened the packet with her teeth, but she didn't chew on the darn thing, did she. She will have wanted the condom to be intact just as much as - if not more than - you. The woman/receptive partner is MUCH more vulnerable to infections than you as the insertive partner.

You also don't need to worry about all this "transferring" the virus business. Hiv is a very fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is primarily transmitted INSIDE the human body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse. You wore a condom and condoms have been proven to prevent hiv infection. If this transferrence you're worried about was a real risk, we'd know about it and tell you. It isn't.

While you do NOT need to test over this specific incident, Anyone who is sexually active should be having a full sexual health care check-up, including but not limited to hiv testing, at least once a year and more often if unprotected intercourse occurs.

If you aren't already having regular, routine check-ups, now is the time to start. As long as you make sure condoms are being used for intercourse, you can fully expect your routine hiv tests to return with negative results. Don't forget to always get checked for all the other sexually transmitted infections as well, because they are MUCH easier to transmit than hiv.

I hope you realise you need to be using condoms with anyone, even non-sex workers. You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for ALL sexually transmitted infections together. To agree to have unprotected intercourse is to consent to the possibility of being infected with an STI. Sex with a condom lasts only a matter of minutes, but hiv is forever.

Have a look through all three condom and lube links in my signature line so you can use condoms with confidence. Use them correctly and consistently and you will avoid hiv infection. It really is that simple!

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