Kissing and Protected Oral Sex

[meteor0681]

Hi,

Sorry for my poor english.

im a new member but been reading for a while now....

I have a protected oral sex and an open mouth kiss with tg.

1. What is the risk if there is blood in kissing ?
2. what is the risk if condom breaks out.

I also check cdc but they says there is a risk in kissing. but i think you will say no risk ?

[Jim Allen]

Hi

I can offer a risk assessment but I don't do "What if's".

Ill presume from your post you simply had protected oral sex and kissing, neither are a risk. You do not need to test for this specific incident if this is your only concern it is safe for you to move on.

Even if you had given unprotected oral i would have said all studies have shown that the risk for sexually transmitted HIV comes from unprotected anal and vaginal intercourse. The virus is very fragile, and your mouth has dozens of protein and enzymes that damage the virus and render it unable to infect.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:
You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for all (STI's) sexually transmitted infections together.

If you are sexually active, it is highly recommended that you get a full sexual health check-up / screening at least annually including but not limited to hiv testing.

Remember that some sexual practices which may be described as ‘safe’ in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's. So please do get fully tested regularly for all STI's including HIV and more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs. Also note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

Finally use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid sexually transmitted hiv infection.

Kind regards

Jim

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[meteor0681]

I still try to understand the cdc report. I think it is the first and last report about kissing with blood. Can you descript the amouth of blood for hiv transmission by kissing ?

a paper cut ? big cut,

a bit blood or many blood ?

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/00048364.htm

[Jim Allen]

Hi

You have been provided a risk assessment for your situation.
I already made it clear we do risk assessments not "what if's" so I do not comment on what others may have posted or reported on.

Did you actually have a question regarding your own situation or are you just here to ask "what if's" ?

Unless you and your partner were actively bleeding all over each other whilst open kissing it is not a risk.  For this to be even in the slightest possible, it would require deep open cuts or gaping wounds in your mouth and a high level active bleeding from the other. Biologically, four conditions need to be present for transmission to occur: The virus must be present in an infectious body fluid from the HIV positive person, it must be present at sufficient levels to cause infection. There must be an effective route of transmission, and it must reach susceptible cells in another person.


You did not meet any of the 4 biological conditions needed.

Please do not post again about a no risk situation or what I suspect is a fake situation.

Jim

[meteor0681]

i really dont sure for my situation. i dont know whether i have blood on my mouth.

thx anyway...

[Jim Allen]

Hi

You do not have open gaping wounds in your month, otherwise you would have mentioned it, and your partner did not have blood streaming from her his/her mouth leaving you covered in blood. You would have noticed trust me.

Hi

I can offer a risk assessment but I don't do "What if's".

Ill presume from your post you simply had protected oral sex and kissing, neither are a risk. You do not need to test for this specific incident if this is your only concern it is safe for you to move on.

Even if you had given unprotected oral i would have said all studies have shown that the risk for sexually transmitted HIV comes from unprotected anal and vaginal intercourse. The virus is very fragile, and your mouth has dozens of protein and enzymes that damage the virus and render it unable to infect.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:
You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for all (STI's) sexually transmitted infections together.

If you are sexually active, it is highly recommended that you get a full sexual health check-up / screening at least annually including but not limited to hiv testing.

Remember that some sexual practices which may be described as ‘safe’ in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's. So please do get fully tested regularly for all STI's including HIV and more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs. Also note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

Finally use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid sexually transmitted hiv infection.

Kind regards

Jim

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[Jim Allen]

You have had a risk assessment and additional information can also be found in my signature at the end of each post.

If you post outside of this thread again I will issue you with a 28 day temporary ban. You have been warned.

Jim

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Hi

I can offer a risk assessment but I don't do "What if's".

Ill presume from your post you simply had protected oral sex and kissing, neither are a risk. You do not need to test for this specific incident if this is your only concern it is safe for you to move on.

Even if you had given unprotected oral i would have said all studies have shown that the risk for sexually transmitted HIV comes from unprotected anal and vaginal intercourse. The virus is very fragile, and your mouth has dozens of protein and enzymes that damage the virus and render it unable to infect.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:
You need to be using condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, every time, no exceptions until such time as you are in a securely monogamous relationship where you have both tested for all (STI's) sexually transmitted infections together.

If you are sexually active, it is highly recommended that you get a full sexual health check-up / screening at least annually including but not limited to hiv testing.

Remember that some sexual practices which may be described as ‘safe’ in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's. So please do get fully tested regularly for all STI's including HIV and more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs. Also note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

Finally use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, and you will avoid sexually transmitted hiv infection.

Kind regards

Jim

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