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Title: Confused and worried
Post by: decks20 on September 05, 2020, 01:51:35 am
Hello, I hope someone can help me here.
A couple of years back I engaged in French kissing with a guy I didn't know very well. He had come back from having dental treatment and although I didn't taste any blood I can't be sure. I have read saliva is not infectious but Dr Tan's website says if the viral load is high it is infectious even without blood.  so how do I know if the guys viral load was high or if he had hiv?! So that is why to alleviate my stress I had an HIV antigen/antibody test. Now the result was negative but I have been having strange symptoms and every time I google the causes HIV is listed as one of the cause and I get beyond worried and doubt my test.
So my question is perhaps I did not take the right test. I did do my research on the internet and it seemed other tests like PCR and Western Blot were not the tests to take so that's why I went to the lab and asked for antibodies test and they gave me th the antibody/antigen test.
Now my question is the  test for HIV also like the test for Herpes or Hepatitis in the sense that it has either an IgM version and igG version? I mean should I have specified that I wanted both igM and igG antibodies to be checked or would the hiv combo test have automatically checked for both these antibodies in one test? I am aware that igM antibody doesn't last forever and is formed before igG. So I'm worried if my test didn't check for igG and when I had the test maybe I didn't have igM antibodies hence giving me a false negative. Because I just walked in and asked for an HIV test and they gave me a combo antigen/antibody and it did not specify if it checked for igM and igG antibodies. I'm confused because for other diseases like herpes and hepatitis the labs have either Herpes IgM or Herpes igG and they are listed as separate tests.

Please do not tell me I don't have a risk and leave it at that. I do need the concern about igG igM answered. Thank you!
Title: Re: Confused and worried
Post by: Jim Allen on September 05, 2020, 03:04:27 am
Hiya,

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Please do not tell me I don't have a risk and leave it at that.  I do need the concern about igG igM answered

Move on with your life! I am not willing to pretend what you posted even required testing.

Kissing is not an HIV risk, saliva does not contain viable copies of HIV. Sexually acquired HIV is not an issue unless you have been engaging in other sexual activities not mentioned here.

As for HIV screening, if you ever do need to test or you are testing out of routine like sexually active adults should, there is no need to specify the type of antibodies.  The test you took looks for P24/IgG/IgM.

Here's what you need to know to avoid HIV infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions. Consider starting PrEP as an additional layer of HIV protection going forward

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as ‘safe’ in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

Kind regards

Jim

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Title: Re: Confused and worried
Post by: decks20 on September 06, 2020, 02:35:28 am
Thank you for being kind enough to explain. It's just the whole corona virus pandemic making me anxious. I've read people's antibodies for coronavirus disappear after a few months and I am just wondering if the same holds true for HIV too?
And if someone does not experience any HIV symptoms when they go for testing, would their body still produce antibodies even without any symptoms?
I'm just concerned if when I tested I didn't have any symptoms and hence no antibodies? Does symptoms = antibodies, or does your body make antibodies without any symptoms too?
I know you said I have no risk but this is just a general question I have and would be grateful if you could answer.
Title: Re: Confused and worried
Post by: Jim Allen on September 06, 2020, 04:10:14 am
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Thank you for being kind enough to explain. It's just the whole corona virus pandemic making me anxious. I've read people's antibodies for coronavirus disappear after a few months and I am just wondering if the same holds true for HIV too?

No.

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And if someone does not experience any HIV symptoms when they go for testing, would their body still produce antibodies even without any symptoms?

Yes.

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I'm just concerned if when I tested I didn't have any symptoms and hence no antibodies? Does symptoms = antibodies, or does your body make antibodies without any symptoms too? I know you said I have no risk but this is just a general question I have and would be grateful if you could answer.

With or without noticible symptoms you would produce HIV antibodies.

This is not a general question and its directly related to testing over your no-risk situtuation. Move on with your life and please don't ask about this event or testing over this event again.

Best. Jim

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Title: Re: Confused and worried
Post by: decks20 on September 06, 2020, 11:02:21 am
Ok i understand. As this would be my last question, I want to know why my combo test had a cut off value of 4? Normally isn't less than 1 negative and above 1 positive? But my test said less than 1 negative and between 1-4 was borderline and above 4 was positive. I was just wondering if I took the wrong test? The lab said this was the only screening test they had. Do all HIV tests have different value ranges or what?
Title: Re: Confused and worried
Post by: Jim Allen on September 06, 2020, 12:21:57 pm
If you post again it's going to lead to a ban without further warnings

As for the signal value it depends on the test and how it's been calibrated.