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Title: Scared Of Encounter
Post by: scaredenc on December 02, 2019, 05:23:00 pm
Hello,

First of all i wanted to thank everyone on this forum, i've spent the past few days reading and it's given me so much information and comfort about my risk but still, when left alone the anxiety builds. Recently while out on a Bachelor Party I had a Protected Sexual encounter with a female escort. This is never somethign I would do and the fact that I did kills me. The more I think about it the more "what-ifs" pop into my mind.

The entire encounter was covered (vaginal sex) however, what scares me is the condom was about 2/3 rolled on but never came off(about 1/2 an 1 inchabove the base) when we switched positions i extended it to the base and I started thinking I incorrectly used it. never once was my urethra was exposed though, When I climaxed I pulled out and finished in condom and went to use some sanitizing wipes to clean up however, with the lube it was still kind of messy down there....about 2 days later i started getting urethritis like symptoms, I had frequent urinations but no discharge and went to a doc where I tested negative on STI's and on the urine culture no bacteria was found. But if i possibly got an STI from this encounter couldn't HIV make its way to my urethra? 2 days before the encounter I had a popped large pimple on my thigh about 2 inches from the genitals was this a possible access point even though it was most likely scabbed over?

Now as far as my risk, what are the chances the vaginal fluid got into the urethra? I thought I'd be protected from urethritis while using a condom? Maybe the leftover fluids on my drive home got in? Would a urine culture show an STI that soon? . It's been 10 days since the encounter so can't even get a test done for another few weeks for HIV. Do you think I'm over thinking it? am I at risk?
Title: Re: Scared Of Encounter
Post by: Jim Allen on December 02, 2019, 05:39:35 pm
Hiya,

Urethritis can have a number of causes, keep working with your doctor to treat it and I hope you feel better soon.

What you posted was not an HIV concern, unlike other infections HIV is very limited in the way it can transmit, sexually only inside the confines of the human body and in short, it can't transmit through an intact latex or polyurethane condom.

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Maybe the leftover fluids on my drive home got in?

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I had a popped large pimple on my thigh about 2 inches from the genitals was this a possible access point even though it was most likely scabbed over?

HIV is fragile and the receptors needed to infect corrode once exposed outside the human body, fluids or being contact with sexual fluids outside the confines of the human body would not be an HIV risk

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if i possibly got an STI from this encounter couldn't HIV make its way

See the levels of protection when using condoms for various STIs also depends greatly on differences in how the diseases or infections are transmitted.  Some infections (Not HIV) are transmitted primarily by skin-to-skin contact, which may infect areas not covered by a condom ( Such as genital herpes, human papillomavirus [HPV] infection, syphilis, and chancroid). So it depends on what STI you are concerned about.

All these are just some of the reasons its called "safer" sex, not "safe sex", anyhow what you posted from an HIV point of view was not a concern so if this was your only sexual encounter & activity then move on with your life and test at least yearly out of standard routine for HIV & STI's as every sexually active adult should.

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This is never somethign I would do and the fact that I did kills me

Sounds like some misplaced guilt to me, not sure if this in part is what is causing your anxiety but no amount of fear, feelings or guilt will make what you posted a HIV risk - Put this encounter behind you.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid HIV infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions. Consider starting PrEP as an additional layer of HIV protection going forward

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as ‘safe’ in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

More information on HIV Basics, PEP, TaSP and Transmission can be found through the links in my signature to our POZ pages, this includes information on HIV Testing (https://poz.com/basics/hiv-basics/hiv-testing)

Kind regards

Jim

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Title: Re: Scared Of Encounter
Post by: scaredenc on December 02, 2019, 05:43:37 pm
Hiya,

Urethritis can have a number of causes, keep working with your doctor to treat it and I hope you feel better soon.

What you posted was not an HIV concern, unlike other infections HIV is very limited in the way it can transmit, sexually only inside the confines of the human body and in short, it can't transmit through an intact latex or polyurethane condom.

HIV is fragile and the receptors needed to infect corrode once exposed outside the human body, fluids or being contact with sexual fluids outside the confines of the human body would not be an HIV risk

See the levels of protection for various STIs also depends greatly on differences in how the diseases or infections are transmitted.  Some infections (Not HIV) are transmitted primarily by skin-to-skin contact, which may infect areas not covered by a condom ( Such as genital herpes, human papillomavirus [HPV] infection, syphilis, and chancroid). So effectiveness also depends on what STI you are concerned about.

All these are just some of the reasons its called "safer" sex, not "safe sex", anyhow what you posted from an HIV point of view was not a concern so if this was your only sexual encounter & activity then move on with your life and test at least yearly out of standard routine for HIV & STI's as every sexually active adult should.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid HIV infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions. Consider starting PrEP as an additional layer of HIV protection going forward

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as ‘safe’ in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

More information on HIV Basics, PEP, TaSP and Transmission can be found through the links in my signature to our POZ pages, this includes information on HIV Testing (https://poz.com/basics/hiv-basics/hiv-testing)

Kind regards

Jim

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Thanks Jim, I think i just needed to hear it. Any risk of it moving with the lube up into the urethra with the other fluids after I took the condom off? I don't think I have any other STI symptoms besides urethritis and that came back negative 2 days later, but because I could have gotten that the fear of HIV has been killing me for the past 10 days. Were the pimples after shaving a concern? They were scabbed. I'm probably just overthinking, but you guys and this forum have been so informative! Everything else you read online makes your heart drop!

Would you consider this a 0 risk encounter?
Title: Re: Scared Of Encounter
Post by: Jim Allen on December 02, 2019, 05:51:37 pm
Hiya,

Asked and answered already.

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HIV is fragile and the receptors needed to infect corrode once exposed outside the human body, fluids or being contact with sexual fluids outside the confines of the human body would not be an HIV risk

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unlike other infections, HIV is very limited in the way it can transmit, sexually only inside the confines of the human body

The wound on your leg is exposed outside the confines of the human body, not that it matters as to day-to-day cuts, wounds and scrapes are also not an HIV concern as they lack route, same goes for shaving pimples and as any fluids whilst taking off the condom also exposed to the environment, not an HIV concern.

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This is never somethign I would do and the fact that I did kills me
You are overthinking this encounter, and it sounds like some misplaced guilt to me, not sure if this in part is what is causing your anxiety but no amount of fear, feelings or guilt will make what you posted an HIV risk - Put this encounter behind you.
Title: Re: Scared Of Encounter
Post by: Jim Allen on December 02, 2019, 06:00:54 pm
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I don't think I have any other STI symptoms

It very possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms, that's why you should be testing out of routine at least yearly.

Now what is safe in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other easier to transmit STI's, so you had no HIV risk but a low STI risk, although, despite this STI risk no stress or running out testing after each sexual contact is needed or warranted, simply test whenever next due a standard routine screening