I knew you were going to do that.
So the moral:
Sometimes we think about the ethics and morals and consequences and politics of our actions, sometimes we dont.
Sometimes we think about these questions -- and do it, or buy it, or say it anyway.
Sometimes we do it or buy it but havent even stopped to think - maybe we have repressed, or made a compromise.
If you never "position" yourself - via morals, or ethics, or politics, with responsibilities, obligations or consequences - to other people, about anything, you are a true cowboy and probably anti-social enough to be dangerous, or psychotic or at least best left alone.
Oh dear God, you barebacked just like everyone else. How you "positioned" yourself is your business,.
I agree that most of the porn is BB these days compared to a few years ago. When I watch Xtube or Gaytube, I wonder what the hell are these guys doing? but then I say "well no one is forcing them to have BB sex" I would hope in this day and age they know what risks they are taking. I would not partake in unsafe sex now that I know I am poz, but honestly it is a turn-on to watch.
In my opinion, enforcing condom use will not majorly influence what decisions people make.
I have no ethical problem with BB porn . Its consensual sex and people consent to view it .
If there is no problem with people not using condoms on camera then I assume there is no problem with people not using condoms off camera.
If a man wanted to be infected with HIV would it be okay for me to go off my meds, build up my viral load, have unprotected sex with them and charge people money to watch the video of him being infected, complete with bonus footage of him getting a positive HIV test? It is consensual.
My collection consists of mostly Japanese porn.. all with mosaic blur covering their cocks so most of the times I cannot tell whether they're doing it au naturale or not. Perhaps all porn should do the same so you can imagine what's going on as you like.
PS - preemptive respond to Philicia, yes, their tools are sometimes so small that one they're inside it will simply disappear so it won't matter much whether it's blurred or not anyway.. ;D
Please. I know you're watching those filthy machofucker clips with the hung Hatian men downloaded freely on torrent sites.
And who uses BT these days? Much better to have a hotfile account and join one of those deeplinking groups in Google. You have some catching up to do Miss P
If there is no problem with people not using condoms on camera then I assume there is no problem with people not using condoms off camera.that line of reasoning doesn't hold water though. ;) TV and movies are not reality. Regular movies show me images of people using guns to kill other people. Just because that image is shown doesn't change the fact that murder is legally and morally wrong. I see a lot of other images of people committing all sorts of crimes (or just being rude, hateful, and evil to one another), and of course that doesn't give anyone permission to do those same actions off screen. It's just the "magic of movies" that these guys in porn can fuck bb and not catch an STD.
jebus mikey, talk about reasoning that doesn't hold water. Porn involves actual sex, murder in a movie does not. Try and think next time.jebus philly :D, movies aren't reality. ::) porn sex is edited to be pretty just like murders on tv are pretty and don't bleed enough. for all you and I know the porn actors have been tested, signed constent forms and are having neg on neg or poz on poz sex. The magic of movies makes those issues a mystery to all of us viewers. Doh. Remember you can't tell who's a pozzie just by looking. ;) The only thing we know is that bb sex (straight or gay, r-rated or x-rated) in the movies doesn't promote safe sex. ;)
Please. I know you're watching those filthy machofucker clips with the hung Hatian men downloaded freely on torrent sites.
Chad Noel, HIV-positive gay-porn performer, dies at age 25:
http://gayporngossip.com/?p=1481 (http://gayporngossip.com/?p=1481)
If this is true, this goes back to the 19 year-old who says he has AIDS on youtube. How could a 25 year-old already die of HIV/AIDS? If he got it doing porn, I would hope he was legal when he started. If he got it right away at age 18, he was dead within 7 years? If his death was due to HIV and not something else, then we would need to rethink what was said about the 19 year-old from youtube. It would definitely say some progress very quickly.
I like bb porn. I really thought they were probably doing monthly testing, but I suppose that is very naive. There are 2 guys from here in Louisville who have done bb porn for one of those newer, less-known companies. I know they are both poz. I wish I would have been more nosy to ask about them being poz and doing bb sex.
I've also watched that guy who gets "straight" navy guys from San Diego to usually just jack-off. I'm sure someone will refresh my memory on the name. On a few, they've done bb sex with each other. On some, they do use condoms. I suppose he must pay them a little more. They are all usually like 18 and I'm sure very uneducated about HIV or in desperate need of cash and he tells them everyone is safe. Or, maybe they do know what they are doing.
If they were doing monthly testing, I don't have a problem.
Progression isn't uniform. Some can and do progress very quickly (especially if certain addiction issues were at play, which was likely given the industry). However, my first thought on seeing that link wasn't to blame the porn-industry, it was to blame the US healthcare system. Assuming his death was preventable, (and there's certainly not enough information here to know otherwise), then one possibility is he didn't have proper access to healthcare. Healthcare should be divorced from your employment status. I assume most actors in the porn-industry are contract workers, providing them with little (if any) workplace benefits.
I think dropping that link (with no commentary) into this discussion is unfair. I can't tell whether he was even infected at his workplace. There's simply not enough information.
Uh, no -- if you're a poor poz queen living in NYC you still have health care resources up the wazoo. It's not Texas, as you well know yourself.I know both NYC and Texas. Well enough to know that people slip through the cracks in both states.
According to a mate of Chad's who posted (comment #60) on the Queerty (http://www.queerty.com/chad-noel-porn-co-star-of-an-underage-brent-corrigan-dies-at-25-20100329/) article about his death, Chad didn't die of aids-related complications but rather "drug-related complications". Who knows?
I'm sure you all know what it's like when a young gay man dies - more often than not everyone speculates "it must have been aids". I've seen no evidence to the contrary that this isn't what's going on here.
Just sayin'....
I know both NYC and Texas. Well enough to know that people slip through the cracks in both states.
Like I said, that one particular case and its particulars are irrelevant unless you think not a single 18 year old has gotten infected from making bareback porn. Does it matter or not whether they actually croak in five years?
Just sayin' (as you say)
Like Cliff says, no one here has said that nobody - 18 years old or 58 years old - has ever been infected while being filmed in a porn flick.
I brought up what Chad's mate said because everyone is assuming that just because Chad was positive, that he died of aids-related causes. His friend says otherwise. You know how it often is - a young, gay, hiv positive man could be run over and killed by a bus (deliberate exaggeration, before anyone jumps down my throat) and some people and the media will speculate that it was aids-related causes.
Of course, if it was drug use that killed him as his friend says, I suppose that could be linked to being in the porn industry, but who's to say he wouldn't have ODd even if he was an accountant?
It's all a bit of red herring as far as the thread topic goes.
Why so argumentative lately, Miss P? Out of klopinin? ;)
I get some next Friday! :) Come over and party with me.
Skeebo....isn't like all straight porn bareback? Even when the lady is taking like 10 men?
I ask Skeebo because he is a straight homie :)
I prefer videos of females dancing and shaking... most often referred to as strippers.
sounds gay
isn't like all straight porn bareback?having just left a straight roommate to his own devices a few months ago and him having no decency to hid his shameful :D str8 p0rn while we lived in the same house, str8 people use condoms too (and sometimes even in their p0rn). For them it's not so much to avoid teh aids as to avoid the babies. ;)
having just left a straight roommate to his own devices a few months ago and him having no decency to hid his shameful :D str8 p0rn while we lived in the same house, str8 people use condoms too (and sometimes even in their p0rn). For them it's not so much to avoid teh aids as to avoid the babies. ;)
Otherwise about the relevance (or not) of edfu's link, if you think nobody has gotten an HIV infection from making BB movies for the sake of your own selfish, hedonistic porn addiction then you really must be on crack. Let's also put aside the fact that he was some knarly, emaciated twink from San Diego and ponder those poor two-months-past-18th-birthday Albanian boys that arrive in Prague penniless only to swept up by some American pornographer like William Higgins.
"Oh! But they must test them once monthly!" -- uh, OK sure.
To be totally unhippocritical, we would have to stop consuming all porn where condoms aren't used for oral sex. Even though the risk is low, it is still possible to contract the virus via oral sex. I suppose there is a small chance a guy could take a load in the eye and get it. That would be a very small risk, but still possible. I guess that is why all porn companies should be doing monthly testing. To be more safe, they should have a 3-6 month waiting period from the first test before performing.
Condom-less porn (or bareback) is on the rise in gay outlets
who gives a shit? AIDS is no biggie, you cretins.
By the way, has this thread turned anyone else on?....
.... or is it just me?
who gives a shit? AIDS is no biggie, you cretins.
My, my, my... What's going on with you lately, Boo?
My, my, my... What's going on with you lately, Boo?
... Boo, you OK?
Generally the less known studios will pay you 200-300 per condom scene and 350-500 per bb scene