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Exposure 5 years ago still worried.
« on: December 23, 2021, 09:49:20 am »
Hi I am a hetro male in the uk and had an exposure 5 years ago in 2017 whilst in college having unprotected sex with a girl from the US which was very stupid.

I had a migraine the next day which got me worried about an sti so a quick google check alerted me to hiv. 3 weeks later I got all the symptoms of ars flu, fever, swollen glands, chills, night sweats, oral thrush which I still have (yellowish tongue) and pain eating/swallowing food! This lasted 3 days I went in to the gum clinic and was told that I needed to come back in 3 months to rule out hiv! I still got tested that day which everything came back negative but I was convinced that it was hiv as there was too many symptoms to be just a coincidence! The doctor told me I was low risk as it was the only time and it was a girl.

In my mind I was already accepting that my result will turn positive in 3 months time as  I had every symptom associated with hiv. I went back and got tested 3 months later but everything was negative to my shock I couldnít believe it.

I even went back 1 year and 2 years  after the exposure  just to make sure as I was so sure I had hiv. All was negative every time so I left it behind me and moved on with my life until recently when I have ulcers in my mouth/ tongue that wonít go away (over 2 months) and have a breakout of warts all over my hands. The warts are really worrying me as Iíve never had a wart in my life and now have 9 warts on one hand and new ones coming everyday! Iím extremely worried that this may be from hiv that the tests havenít picked it up and I may have a rare strain that might not be detected?

I went to the gum clinic again and explained my fears but the doctor didnít think it was anything to worry about as Iíve tested outside the window period and havenít had any other exposures since! I canít stop worrying and donít know what it could be.

All the tests were taken from a vein. Can I 100% rule out hiv? Its just I have every symptom associated to hiv for it to be just a coincidence? My cbc was all normal but my vitamin b12 is low which hiv could be the cause as I have a healthy diet full of green vegs.

Any advice/help as Iím still worried sick.

Thank you

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Re: Exposure 5 years ago still worried.
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2021, 10:30:30 am »
Hiya,

You have conclusively tested negative over the incident 5 years ago.

Most of the issues mentioned would have nothing to do with HIV regardless of your HIV status. If despite using OTC treatments for the warts on your hands they keep reoccurring then consult your doctor so they can provide further treatment.

Here's what you need to know to avoid HIV infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions. Consider talking to your health care provider about taking PrEP going forward as an additional layer of HIV protection.

Keep in mind that some sexual practices described as Ďsafeí in terms of HIV might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's, so please do get tested regularly and at least yearly for STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also, note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and, the only way of knowing is by testing.

Kind regards

Jim

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Re: Exposure 5 years ago still worried.
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2021, 11:00:40 am »
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oral thrush which I still have (yellowish tongue) and pain eating/swallowing food!

One last thing, having a yellow tongue is pretty normal. The most common reason would be dead skin and bacteria etc., and as for the oral thrush, it is nothing more than an overgrowth of usually present fungal in your mouth. It's pretty standard. However, when thrush does not go away and is left untreated, it can cause more severe complications.

Your post indicates that you have had thrush for five years now. If so, it's time to get it treated. Please consult your GP so they can check and treat this.

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Re: Exposure 5 years ago still worried.
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2021, 01:56:00 pm »
Thanks for your reply Jim

I will get talking to the doctor next week about it.

As for hiv I know Iíve had numerous negative tests but would the gum clinic tests detect both hiv 1 & 2 and all strains of the virus?

I just keep coming back to hiv as to why these warts are appearing as my immune system isnít able to fight them off! 

Is it possible to get a test that checks how your immune system is overall?

Thanks again 

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Re: Exposure 5 years ago still worried.
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2021, 02:27:45 pm »
Hiya,

It sounds like common warts on the hands, caused by human papillomavirus (HPV).

This is an HIV Q&A, not HPV, but Essentially there are about 150 strains of HPV, however, only some of those strains cause warts, and it's contagious.

Now, if it is common warts on your hands, well about 30% of kids/teenagers will develop common warts and 5-10% of adults, it's transmitted by touch, although, not everyone who comes in contact with HPV develops warts. It can take six months to develop a wart post-exposure. It's so common and relatively easy to treat that nearly every pharmacy has over the counter treatments.

However, if you are concerned about warts, the OTC treatment has not worked. It's spreading, meaning you are getting new ones, or you want someone to check and confirm that they are common warts, then speak to your GP for treatment.

Also, get your suspected thrush looked at and treated whilst talking to the GP about warts.

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As for HIV I know I've had numerous negative tests but would the gum clinic tests detect both HIV 1 & 2 and all strains of the virus?

You are overthinking this, I already said it's conclusive.

Standard lab testing for  HIV antibodies includes HIV type 1 & 2. The test looks for commonalities found in reaction to all subtypes of HIV 1 & 2. It's also a requirement that these tests show proficiency regardless of subtype. 

To give you an example HIV 1 group m, subtype L was confirmed in 2020, this was the first new subtype in over 21 years, and yet no changes were needed to the testing panels in use as they would already detect it.
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« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2021, 02:53:32 pm »
Look getting back to HIV, you did not acquire it 5 years ago.

So all there is left for me to say is that if you are sexually active use condoms for any intercourse and remember to test out of standard routine at least yearly for STI's & HIV.
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Re: Exposure 5 years ago still worried.
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2021, 04:13:37 pm »
Thank you Jim I was worried mainly about the warts as checking google says warts are the most common skin problem for people with hiv so from my past exposure I just freaked out a bit and took me back to my worries in 2017! I am going to the dermatologist next week for the warts. Thanks again for your help.

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« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2021, 04:23:53 pm »
You're welcome.

Also, warts are not the most common. For people living with HIV, the most common skin issue would be seborrheic dermatitis or rashes from bacterial, fungal or viral infections.

Although these conditions would also be common enough among the HIV negative population for various reasons, so it doesn't mean much, just a slightly higher prevalence... Hence the only thing that matters are test results, not symptoms that can have common causes regardless of HIV status. 
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