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Offline tamahut

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Oral and Anal Risk
« on: September 28, 2018, 01:10:39 pm »
Hello All, I need your help and assurance.

on 7th April, i (men) had oral sex with another men both receiving and giving. There was no ejaculation, but it might be some precum.

I also had PROTECTED ANAL as a bottom. he EJACULATED INSIDE me. I cant be sure whether the condom remained intact during sex. But after sex, I can see his sperm inside the condom. Then I test the condom. I filled the condom with water and it didnt break.

12 April,  after that incident, i developed sore throat, cough, and heavy runny nose.
14 April, got high fever 38,5 degree celcius. The sore throat, cough, and runny nose still present.
16 April, the fever cooling down to 37,5 degree celcius and it happened until 18th April.
18 April, The symtoms cleared.

Some website states that oral sex is LOW RISK not NO RISK.
And some people believe that he got hiv from oral.

Im very nervous, and I cant stop thinking about that until this day.
I dont know the man's HIV status whether he is poz or not.

Do My smptoms related to HIV infection? (ARS).
Can pre-ejaculation fluid or sperm penetrated condom out to rectum?
Do I need HIV testing over this incident?

Thanks all :(
« Last Edit: September 28, 2018, 01:15:54 pm by tamahut »

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Re: Oral and Anal Risk
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2018, 01:21:47 pm »
You had protected anal sex, so no risk of HIV there.
The risk through oral is negligible, so much so that we never advise people to test as a result of it and certainly given your situation, I would recommend you to test at your next scheduled screening along with far more common (and easier to catch) STI which you should be doing as a matter of routine.

We don't generally talk about symptoms and anyway none of your symptoms are HIV specific. Your runny nose meant you had an upper respiratory infection of some kind. A cold perhaps, or maybe sinusitus.  Either way, they cleared after a few days so all good.

So in answer to your specific questions
 - No, your symptoms are not ARS
 - No, you don't need to test specifically. Just wait til you next do routine screening.

Another couple of observations, if I may...

1. It doesn't matter if you knew the guy was HIV positive or not. It makes zero difference to the risk profile, in fact - someone who believes they are negative (or has never tested) but has the virus is far more risky than someone HIV positive but on stable treatment, where it would be impossible to transmit the virus. You want sex with  guys and not have to worry about getting HIV? Go find some HIV+ guys then. The wild-cards are the people who don't know they are HIV positive, or are running around with old test certificates. The easiest and safest thing to do is make sure you use condoms for any anal or vaginal sex, without exception as the only persons status that matters is yours.

2. Don't 'test' condoms with water. It's utterly pointless, as when condoms break they shred and you know about it. Filling them with water afterwards may cause them to break causing unnecessary anxiety, and filling them with water beforehand could contribute to them breaking, so just don't do it, ever.

Hope that helps :)
« Last Edit: September 28, 2018, 01:24:38 pm by CaveyUK »
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Re: Oral and Anal Risk
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2018, 10:36:36 pm »
Thankyou for your response  :)

Forgive me before, I want to add some question.
1)So do you think it is highly unlikely that i will get hiv from that encounter? he is ejaculated in me. And i give him oral without ejaculation.

2) Can i be sure that the condom 100 persen effective working prevent hiv? He used condom before penetrated me. And after sex, i can see his sperm inside condom, and i test it with water.

3) As he is ejaculated inside me, Can his sperm inside condom penetrated condom out to my rectum?

Thankyou very much. I want left all of this behind me. But I cant stop thinking it everyday.

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Re: Oral and Anal Risk
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2018, 12:41:48 am »
HIV can not transmit through an intact condom and, if a condom breaks during intercourse they shred leaving no doubt. Stop filling condoms with water!

As for giving a BJ, relax, move on with your life. No need to run out and specifically test. Just test whenever you are next normally next due a routine screening.

Here's what you need to know in order to avoid hiv infection:
Use condoms for anal or vaginal intercourse, correctly and consistently, every time, no exceptions.

Keep in mind that some sexual practices which may be described as ‘safe’ in terms of HIV transmission might still pose a risk for transmission of other STI's, so please do get fully tested regularly and at least yearly for all STI's including but not limited to HIV and test more frequently if unprotected intercourse occurs

Also note that it is possible to have an STI and show no signs or symptoms and the only way of knowing is by testing.

Kind regards

Jim

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Re: Oral and Anal Risk
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2021, 03:56:47 am »
hi expert here, i want to ask some question regarding my risk

i have an exposure unprotected possible very brief receptive anal (probably 1 second). Honestly, i didnt know if there he had penetrated me or not. Lets assume he penetrated me for conservatism.

On 11 week (80 days) after exposure, i tested my self on small laboratory in my city. The laboratory using RAPID TEST Antibody only but the blood sample drawn from my arm vein (not a fingerprick). And the result came in 20 minute (non reactive).

I already knew when rapid test fingerprick conclusive after 3 month exposure. But how about rapid test blood vein?

do u consider my non reactive using rapid test blood vein conclusive after 80 days?

thank you so much !
 




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Re: Oral and Anal Risk
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2021, 04:20:40 am »
Hiya,

With rapid tests, the guidelines are to wait 3 months post-exposure. You tested a bit short of this, although I would not expect the result you have to change when you retest.

Jim.

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