COBRA is stratospherically expensive and isn't happening.i've never understood how someone unemployed was supposed to pay for the huge cost of COBRA anyway. ::)
i've never understood how someone unemployed was supposed to pay for the huge cost of COBRA anyway. ::)
You're supposed to pay COBRA out of a savings account, the balance of which you've always budgeted for a (at minimum) nine month contingency in case you become unemployed. The same way you'd pay for your mortgage/rent and car payments if you became unemployed.
Of course, many working people do not do this because they didn't have a job that enabled them financially to do so. Or, of course, when they were working they didn't budget well for it -- such as buying a car that was too expensive or rent/mortgage that was too high, etc.
when they were working they didn't budget well for it -- such as buying a car that was too expensive or rent/mortgage that was too high, etc.I doubt anyone budgets for paying $100 a month for family health insurance coverage through their job to $1000 a month Cobra payment for the same coverage. :D
Best part: Lost pounds as I've now time and energy to make it to the gym.
Worst Part: I've got a weeks worth of meds left. COBRA is stratospherically expensive and isn't happening. No clue where or how I'll get medical coverage.
Craziest Thing: I'm more at peace with life now than I've ever been. I give a shit about all that's happening but I'm truly nonplussed about it all in total. I'm understanding the saying "It is what it is."
Good times! Man Run Over By a Police Scooter This Morning at Occupy Wall Street:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrzQedHM6SY
LOL! The cop is going 1/2 mph and the guy acts like he was just mowed down by a speeding freight train. The dude needs an Academy Award.
-Will
LOL! The cop is going 1/2 mph and the guy acts like he was just mowed down by a speeding freight train. The dude needs an Academy Award.
-Will
In Miami he would have been shot and then black jacked to death....
5 years later a street named after him.
I don't completely understand the goal of these protests other than to express dissatisfaction with the status quo and raise awareness, and I don't suppose there really needs to be another goal. It seems that many of the complaints call for a redistribution of wealth and could be achieved through more socialistic government policies. However no one wants to actually say that. It reminds me of when "socialized medicine" became a dirty term and was replaced by "universal healthcare", which is essentially the same thing. So many Americans have irrational faith in capitalism and believe it is unpatriotic to suggest there might be a better way.
I saw a sign that said "Death to Twinks!"
Can anyone explain to me in a couple sentences what the Occupiers want exactly? I'm getting confused with the signs "No Bank bailout" , "No corporate greed","No police and Teacher Layoffs" and today in San Antonio one sign read "Quest for Peace" and another banner read "Out of Afgahanistan Now", and another "Legalize Weed".
Can anyone explain to me in a couple sentences what the Occupiers want exactly?
Justice, fairness, true democracy, a political system that is not controlled by corporations and the wealthiest.That about sums it up.
Justice, fairness, true democracy, a political system that is not controlled by corporations and the wealthiest.
I think I found it...
http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occupy-wall-st-moveme/
I am Digging demand #1 - $20/hr minimum wage.
As for the political system being controlled by the wealthiest -- well, it's been that way from the beginning too -- how many of the founding fathers would have been considered part of the "99%"? Not too many.....
We don't have a "true democracy" -- never have. It was designed as a democratic republic on purpose.
Yes, but unless you are one of those who do not believe the Constitution is subject to modification, change, and amendments, you're stuck with the original Constitutional provision that only white male property-holders (10% of the population) could vote. We've come a long way, baby. Now, several hundred years later, you don't have to own property, you don't have to pay a poll tax, you don't have to be white, and you don't have to be male. I'm sorry your vaunted "republic" has degenerated into the current mob scene. Perhaps you would be happier living in a monarchy.
Anyway, It is much to simple a critique of the OWS to say they are rich hating hooligans.
If I wanted to start a discussion among 300 million people... .
I am wondering if you are smug, putting one on about your financial straights or simply have your head in the sand, and if its the last option, (which I guess is the best of the three) are you frozen in fear or really ready to face to have everything taken away from you because of unemployment and poverty?
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You may be right -- but they aren't really giving us anything else to grab on to, now are they.
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Again -- being against something is easy, being for something constructive is a much tougher proposition.
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Craziest Thing: I'm more at peace with life now than I've ever been. I give a shit about all that's happening but I'm truly nonplussed about it all in total. I'm understanding the saying "It is what it is."
This would be and probably will be a great time for a political novice, with no party affiliation, no corporate connection to run for public office.
Er, just to be clear, the UofV instate tuition is about 14,000. All expenses including room and board add up to about 28,000.
"60.6 percent of full-time undergraduates receive some kind of need-based financial aid and the average need-based scholarship or grant award is $14,506."
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/university-of-vermont-3696
I got full tuition scholarships at some amazing universities. Not all students at swanky universities are rich. In fact, the swankier the school, the bigger the endowment, and the higher percentage of people who get through on smarts, not rich daddies.
Silly stereotypes don't help your argument.
Please climb back up on your stupid horse and continue patroling the Swiss.
Does making condescending remarks make you feel good, clever, intelligent? Love is my reason for being here.
Does making condescending remarks make you feel good, clever, intelligent?
Love is my reason for being here.
I think it was directed at bocker, who gets angry when he speaks half truths (quoting the OUT of state tuition to cast UVM as a bunch of spoilt brats) then has to walk them back.
Of course I know the difference between in state and out of state tuition dearie.
ANYONE struggling to pay expensive out of state tuition for an average school is a fool. There are cheaper better options in state, no doubt, and cheaper schools period. If you you're a rich ski bum, it is fine to pay through the nose for that school. But there are other options.
So if your dismissive comments about UVM applies to the rich preppies, go on, have at them. Oh but wait, they can have progressive politics too. Imagine that.
@ I care you are very argumentative to the many senior members in this forum as well as some of the mods, what's up with that? we all wanna know why that is ::)
Double standards and hypocrisy, and someone (senior member perhaps) calling into question my HIV status and reasons for trying to connect with others in support of OWS...
I guess I should have expected that the same things that have kept me from identifying fully with the "gay culture" in general would be present here.
I guess I should have expected that the same things that have kept me from identifying fully with the "gay culture" in general would be present here.
Double standards and hypocrisy, and someone (senior member perhaps) calling into question my HIV status and reasons for trying to connect with others in support of OWS...
I guess I should have expected that the same things that have kept me from identifying fully with the "gay culture" in general would be present here.
I agree with Joe's take on the OWS movement. It is a movement for social and political change; why do we have to have a clear set of "demands", as the media continues to put it? The way that Wall Street and big business have run a lot of us into the ground didn't come with any play-by-play instructions. That's the whole point. They do as they please, because THEY control government, not WE the People.
I fully support OWS, and would like to support them financially (to the extent that my meager existence allows).
BTW, do you notice that there's not a lot of coverage, just a minute or two, on the big news networks, like NBC, ABC, CBS....and not much more on CNN. Wonder if that might be because they are all controlled by big business, and it's not in their best interest to show it? Hmmm....
Just my .2 devalued cents worth....