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Author Topic: New Lab Changes??  (Read 1144 times)

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Offline gregorykeith

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New Lab Changes??
« on: November 28, 2020, 12:24:41 pm »
Good Morning:

So I've been HIV+ for 20 years, and for almost twenty years (once I got on the cocktail at the time), my lab results come back as "undetected" <20.

This last test came back "detected" <20 and I'm confused. MY gp didn't really understand what the difference is since they are both <20 and I am too. Can anyone give me some understanding?

Thanks!

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Re: New Lab Changes?? Introduction thread
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2020, 12:47:46 pm »
Hiya,

Welcome to the forum, not surprised the GP was unsure about the meaning of this result.

Basically, it just means HIV was detected, below the 20 copies limit of the test, so below the test capabilities for it to provide a count. So congrats the HIV remains fully suppressed (UD) by clinical standards. ;)

As you are a new member of the HIV community I moved your thread to the "Living with HIV" forum so it can be your forum introduction thread.

Asides from having a fully suppressed viral load how are you getting on?

Best, Jim.
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Offline gregorykeith

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Re: New Lab Changes??
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2020, 12:55:45 pm »
Thanks for moving it, Jim!  Yup, it was my first post, so learning the ropes.

Thanks for the info: I'm going to pass it along to my doctor and I'm just gong to relax now :)

Life is good.  So, I came out two years ago, moved out of the home I lived in with my wife and three boys. Needless to say, it's been horrible on all of us. Although my ex-wife knew of my struggles from the beginning, she is still very hurt and since my children love her (as they should), they sided with her. I haven't spoken to one of my sons for a year and a half.

I started writing him letters in a blog about my experience as a man and father who struggled with being Christian and gay; the letters explain/wrestle with the past and try to show him that I'm still the same dad who loves him.

Thanks for asking and for listening!

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Re: New Lab Changes??
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2020, 03:26:27 pm »
"undetected" <20

"detected" <20
undetected means the test found basically 0 VL but because the test only goes down to 20, they can't say it was exactly 0

detected means the test found some amount of VL but because the test only goes down to 20, whatever the VL is it's under 20, but not 0

successful treatment is <200 although <20 or "undetectable" is preferred.

of course, as your example shows, the word "undetectable" probably shouldn't be used as it is an inexact measurement due to the limitations of the test. But it's easy shorthand to use even if it causes confusion sometimes.  :D
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Re: New Lab Changes??
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2020, 09:41:57 am »
I haven't spoken to one of my sons for a year and a half.

Hiya,

Hope you are doing well and I apologize for not getting back to you sooner.

Really sorry to hear about the strain on the relationship between you and your sons. I don't know what age they are but parents splitting up is never an easy thing even when it might be for the best. Hopefully, with time the relationship with your sons can be mended.

Wishing you all the best. Jim.
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