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Author Topic: So I need some comments to this.  (Read 5449 times)

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Offline dhivpol

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So I need some comments to this.
« on: September 27, 2009, 07:35:37 pm »
So my boyfriend and I are living with his father. He is buying guns (2 shotguns, 1 AK47 and 2 handguns) saying we are still in the civil war and that someone should shoot Obama. He has said before "Obama is on his list". What can we do?
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Re: So I need some comments to this.
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2009, 07:47:56 pm »
first, you'll need to find a new home. once you have that accomplished, you could, if you think his threat are truly more than idle racial and/or anti-authoritarian comments, notify the FBI.

If you do anything rashly, you may find yourself homeless. It never pays to criticize the ones making the house payment.
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Offline dhivpol

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Re: So I need some comments to this.
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2009, 07:49:58 pm »
Well he is 57, a person who drinks wine while he drives, and still calls people a nigger. I don't know what to do. He now has: 1 Revolver, 2 Shotguns, 1 AK 47 Machine Gun, 2 Handguns and he is ordering a AR 15.
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Offline weasel

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Re: So I need some comments to this.
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2009, 08:14:07 pm »
IF  you are for real ?

 YOU need  to move and fast !

 I would wonder about your boy friend too !

  This is NOT  normal  or leagal  !

  Wackos  will do anything  to anybody !

                                    I hope you get out alive !

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Offline dhivpol

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Re: So I need some comments to this.
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2009, 08:28:00 pm »
My boyfriend and I both think he is crazy, my partner and I are both poz and were on the HOPWA list for housing. My boyfriend wants nothing to do with his father.

I do know he was separated from working for the City when he threatened to shoot his boss . and the gov't put him on Disability. Why is the Law Enforcement allowing him to buy these guns?

I forgot, he also smokes weed and takes his pain meds.
« Last Edit: September 27, 2009, 08:33:41 pm by dhivpol »
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Offline Texan38

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Re: So I need some comments to this.
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2009, 08:31:33 pm »
Move out.....ASAP!
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Re: So I need some comments to this.
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2009, 08:48:15 pm »
Doesn't your name pop up on some watch list when you start hoarding guns and ammo?  I mean, if he getting the weapons legally.  Who knows these days?

I am sure he shares these views with others - you could call the FBI and make an anonymous complaint.  I sure they would be more then happy to speak to you about any potential wackjob who is armed.

good luck

yeah, move out - not a good situation for any of you. 

Offline GSOgymrat

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Re: So I need some comments to this.
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2009, 09:26:43 pm »
If you really think he is mentally ill and imminently dangerous you can go to your local magistrate and petition for his involuntary commitment. If the magistrate agrees he will be picked up by law enforcement and taken to a hospital or mental health center where he will be evaluated and hospitalized against his will if necessary. The particulars vary from state to state.

Offline dhivpol

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Re: So I need some comments to this.
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2009, 09:44:26 pm »
What is a Magistrate?
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Offline GNYC09

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Re: So I need some comments to this.
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2009, 10:01:58 pm »
This guy sounds like a powderkeg.  He's threatened to shoot people, owns guns, spews anger + hate speech and drinks/smokes pot.  A recipe for disaster.  You should DEFINITELY report him even if anonymously.  God forbid he should do something that you could have prevented...

Offline GNYC09

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Re: So I need some comments to this.
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2009, 10:03:57 pm »
p.s. = I hope you don't mind my asking but how is it that he is ok with you and your partner living together in his home when he seems so narrow-minded?

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Re: So I need some comments to this.
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2009, 10:04:58 pm »
just remember: before you take any action - get out of there first!

crazy people (and not-so-crazy people) often do crazy things. if he finds out (or even thinks) that YOU are the one that notified any authorities about him, your very life could be in danger. Even if you think you can report this anonymously, he may find out, figure out, or just suspect that it was you.

Plenty of women have been killed by their significant others when those people weren't held long enough in custody, believed they "knew" who turned them in etc. (and you're not even "blood kin" to this man, so he may have no compunction against harming you) If this man is the danger (and bigot) that you claim he is, he'll "know" who to come for when he needs retribution (or to regain his "manliness") after the authorities let him go or don't take him in.

There's even the chance that the authorities may not "believe" you (prejudice in law enforcement is nothing new) and they may even tell him of your actions. I understand that this may mean that you can do nothing at all until you have different housing; but that may be the safest route of action for you to take to stay alive or not get beaten up.

I'm not saying to not do anything about this situation, I'm just urging that you be safe in whatever you do. I'd hate to say I told you so, if he shoots you dead with one of those weapons. ;)
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And I think about it all the time
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Offline skeebo1969

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Re: So I need some comments to this.
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2009, 10:11:37 pm »
p.s. = I hope you don't mind my asking but how is it that he is ok with you and your partner living together in his home when he seems so narrow-minded?


  Did he buy any bullets?  I'm with GNY, how is it that he accepts you two living together?   I'm just surprised you made it to the keyboard to post this.  You better duck, run for cover immediately, and get to a phone so you can call the police.


 
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Offline dhivpol

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Re: So I need some comments to this.
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2009, 10:14:04 pm »
He has ammo, yes. For some reason, he doesnt mind us here. He does not know were poz btw.
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Offline GSOgymrat

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Re: So I need some comments to this.
« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2009, 10:19:02 pm »
What is a Magistrate?

It is a judicial officer. You should start by calling the police or sheriff's department and explaining your concerns.

Offline mecch

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Re: So I need some comments to this.
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2009, 11:56:30 pm »
Is there another relative or friends who you can live with?  Can either of you ask a social worker for advice and help to relocate ASAP?  I'm with leatherman. First priority, yourselves... Also, outside experts on mental illness and if they agree, outside muscle. 
He's obviously not all bad but definately off his rocker.  If your BF loves him then there might be a way for him to help him.  But you two, safe elsewhere, may be the first challenge.
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Offline rondrond

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Re: So I need some comments to this.
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2009, 12:57:26 am »
Quote " He is buying guns (2 shotguns, 1 AK47 and 2 handguns) saying we are still in the civil war and that someone should shoot Obama. He has said before "Obama is on his list".Quote you:


If he's not on a watch list, he will/should be now. Anything posted here is public: and threats made to the President are frowned upon.  :-\



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Offline dhivpol

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Re: So I need some comments to this.
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2009, 03:06:51 am »
Thank you all for your comments, we will be moving out ASAP!!! (And I will be contacting upper auth.) Thanks again all.
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Re: So I need some comments to this.
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2009, 09:05:53 am »
just be safe!
and, as things progress, let us know what happens  ;)
leatherman (aka Michael)

We were standing all alone
You were leaning in to speak to me
Acting like a mover shaker
Dancing to Madonna then you kissed me
And I think about it all the time
- Darren Hayes, "Chained to You"

Offline HollyStar

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Re: So I need some comments to this.
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2009, 02:56:48 pm »
Wow, this is scary! I'm glad that you are getting out of there. I'm also pretty sure that it is illegal to verbally threaten the Presidents life. Anyway, good luck with all of this.
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Offline smalltown66

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Re: So I need some comments to this.
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2009, 07:23:21 pm »
Do you have HIV casemanagers or a therapist or someone you can trust and talk to?
Get their advice on the fastest and safest way to get out of this situation quickly and safely.

I hope you find peace and comfort soon.


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Offline mewithu

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Re: So I need some comments to this.
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2009, 07:50:31 pm »
Look in the phone book for the Secret Service and report this as  soon as possible any threat to the president is a felony and they will be there in no time flat if it has merit.
1997 is when I found out, being deathly ill. I had to go to the hospital due to extreme headache and fever. I fell coma like,  two months later weighing 95 pounds and in extreme pain and awoke to knowledge of Pancreatis, Cryptococcal Meningitis, Thrush,Severe Diarea,  Wasting, PCP pneumonia. No eating, only through tpn. Very sick, I was lucky I had good insurance with the company I worked for. I was in the hospital for three months that time. 
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Offline Dale Parker

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Re: So I need some comments to this.
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2009, 09:35:37 pm »
Hey D: I would talk to a lawyer first.  If you can't afford one see if you can go to a legal clinic as they usually have a probono (don't think I spelled that right) = Free or low cost. Make sure your asses are covered legally. You will also need their help and guidance if you want to have him committed. Emotionally it will probably be better for your boyfriend if he has him committed rather than thrown in jail. I'd give him/her your statements. Pictures are worth a thousand words but they aren't worth your life if you get caught taking them. Once finished with the lawyer immediately talk to your housing people. They can move you out faster if your under threat of physical harm which you are.
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