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HIV Prevention and Testing => Do I Have HIV? => Topic started by: sam12345678 on September 03, 2012, 01:16:45 pm
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Hi Guys
I am worried father and want some help. I went to a stripclub near London.
You sit on a chair and the dancer comes around and dances for you. I never touched the dancer. She was completely naked and when she came near me she put her hands in her vagina and then on her breasts and then grinded my face. it had happened so fast I was not ready for that.and may be her breasts touched my eyes. I am worried now and thinking about it constantly that the vaginal fluids or blood from her vagina came onto her breasts and then in my eyes I will be infected. Since it was dark there I was not able to see whether the vagina had blood in it. It recollect that it did not hurt my eye when she put the breasts onmy face. but you never know. Please let me know when I should get tested and is there a test which can detect early. I dont know how to face my wife now.I dont want to put my wife at risk now if I am infected.Please help
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Hi Guys
I am worried father and want some help. I went to a stripclub near London.
You sit on a chair and the dancer comes around and dances for you. I never touched the dancer. She was completely naked and when she came near me she put her hands in her vagina and then on her breasts and then grinded my face. it had happened so fast I was not ready for that.and may be her breasts touched my eyes. I am worried now and thinking about it constantly that the vaginal fluids or blood from her vagina came onto her breasts and then in my eyes I will be infected. Since it was dark there I was not able to see whether the vagina had blood in it. It recollect that it did not hurt my eye when she put the breasts onmy face. but you never know. Please let me know when I should get tested and is there a test which can detect early. I dont know how to face my wife now.I dont want to put my wife at risk now if I am infected.Please help
Under ABSOLUTELY NO CIRCUMSTANCES is this even remotely an HIV risk.
HIV is an incredibly fragile virus that can only be transmitted in certain very specific ways. Unprotected vaginal/anal sex, sharing IV drug needles, and occasionally from mother to infant.
It does not remain infectious outside the body. Nothing that grazed your eyes, no moist spots, no wetness can transmit HIV. You were absolutely not at any risk whatsoever.
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Thanks a lot for you information. It was very relieving. You said absolutely no circumstances this is possible. It means I need no testing. Even if there is some slight vaginal blood on her breasts that would not make a difference. I have a heard that eye can be receiver of hiv as it has fluids in it. As this was so sudden that hiv may not be inactivated and I would be infected.
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Thanks a lot for you information. It was very relieving. You said absolutely no circumstances this is possible. It means I need no testing. Even if there is some slight vaginal blood on her breasts that would not make a difference. I have a heard that eye can be receiver of hiv as it has fluids in it. As this was so sudden that hiv may not be inactivated and I would be infected.
There is absolutely no evidence that HIV can be transmitted through the eye during anything short of an arterial blood splash in a healthcare environment. The vaginal fluids one encounters "in the wild" are not infectious. It's the thicker fluid deep within the vagina that carries infectious particles, which is why only penetrative sex can transmit the virus.
Things like fingering and cunnilingus, for example, will NOT transmit HIV.
You had no risk and no need to test.
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Thanks for the answer.
You said that superficial vaginal fluids are not infectious but may be there is some blood element in it as the dancer would be menesurating and there might be a risk than or not.
Please help
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Sam,
You cannot seriously think a woman is going to be stripping while on her period, dipping her fingers into her vagina and smearing the blood on her breasts, can you? We women are very private about our periods and I can guarantee you that what you are imagining might have happened, did NOT happen.
You know, even if this DID happen, you were still not at risk.
Hiv is a fragile, difficult to transmit virus that is primarily transmitted INSIDE the human body, as in unprotected anal or vaginal intercourse where the virus never leaves the confines of the two bodies.
Once outside the body, small changes in temperature, and pH and moisture levels all quickly damage the virus and render it unable to infect. For this reason, getting vaginal fluids - even fluids with some blood in them - on your skin or in your eyes is NOT going to put you at risk.
You seriously need to put this behind you and get on with your life. If hiv were as easily transmitted as you are imagining, pretty much everyone in the world would be hiv positive by now. They're not.
This is all about your guilt over having had a lap-dance. You think you're going to get punished. Well, guess what. Hiv isn't a punishment, and you did NOT have a risk. NO way, NO how.
Ann
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Hi Guys
I am now in the third week after my incident. I have severe sore throat, headache, little temperature and fatigue, sneezing a bit, feel like sleeping at work, can't even talk a lot. I pray may be common cold and not ARS. Also I had completely forgotten about this after two weeks of mental torture and thought nothing is going to happen to me .I even had sex with my wife but tried to use condoms but later just did without it because me and my wife not comfortable with it as we never use them. Beacuse of the sore throat and temperature I am worried now. I had gone to the GUM Clinic immediately after the incident (3 days after the incident) and did HIV rapid test which was negative and they said that the risk is low and told me to come after three weeks for some final test. I have no sexual partners other than my wife for 10 years, nor injected any drugs etc. I am really stressed now as I am getting unwell. I feel extremely bad about this and when I see my kids I repent every moment. How can I be so irresponsible to my wife and my kids and now I am in a big problem. What if there were fluids/blood and it come in contact with my eye, this lingers in my head 24/7. I never had a private dance with her she came to me as I was first in the line driniking beer and started putting fingers and grinding her breast on me and she did to other customers also. I am idiot and thought it would be safe and did not react that time.Nothing is safe in this world afterall, there can be accidents. May be I am the victim now.
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Sam,
As we already told you, you did NOT have a risk for hiv infection. Re-read your entire thread until it sinks in.
If you feel unwell, see a doctor. Whatever is going on has NOTHING to do with hiv.
Ann
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Hi Ann
Thanks for your reply.
I was ok till today and had sound sleep yesterday which has relived my sore throat a lot but still feeling warm and unwell. I aslo got scared when I read recently positive forum that there are some folks have been infected inspite of using condoms or oral sex. How can it be, may be they did not use it correctly or they are not telling the truth I guess or in the HIV virus world anything is possible.
Thanks
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Sam,
For the last time, if you feel unwell, see a doctor. Whatever is going on has nothing to do with hiv. You have not had a risk for hiv infection.
And yes, some people will lie and some people forget what they actually did under the influence of drink and/or drugs.
If you read the Welcome Thread (http://forums.poz.com/index.php?topic=220.0) before posting like you're supposed to, you will have read the following posting guideline:
Anyone who continues to post excessively, questioning a conclusive negative result or no-risk situation, will be subject to a four week Time Out (a temporary ban from the Forums). If you continue to post excessively after one Time Out, you may be given a second Time Out which will last eight weeks. There is no third Time Out - it is a permanent ban. The purpose of a Time Out is to encourage you to seek the face-to-face help we cannot provide on this forum.
Please consider yourself warned!
Ann
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Hi Ann
I am in a big problem now and did not listen to you and got tested. Now I am haunted with fears and nightmares.
I went to a GUM clinic and they tested me with HIV DUO after 2 weeks which came back negative and thought I have been infected by a needle by the nurse so I went yesterday and took PCR test from private clinic freedomhealth in uk. Now I am thinking that the doctor has infected me and may be he is different intentions. I dont know what would be the result of pcr and I am going crazy and paranoid. I dont know if the doctor says the pcr is positive then I can't even prove that I had no risks etc. Testing unneccasry is really dangerous and anxiety provoking and I should have taken your advise. This is more dangerous than my risks. Please do not give me time out I know you will annoyed. I am desperate for help. Can I assume that everything will be fine. Please help
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Seek professional mental help for your irrational thoughts.
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Thanks Teak
Hi Ann
Need your help.
I know its irrational but my mind does not accept it. People do hurt others intentionally. There are criminals who want to harm others. I understand that this is very rare but what if its with me. I have some nightmare like -'What if someone puts the needle in bottle of hiv blood and draws blood from my vein,What I will do if I get infected, how I will face my family'. These fears haunt me. I dont know when this will stop and its taking my time, money and my life. I am in constant state of fear and anxiety.
Please help.
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Sam,
People in health clinics are not in the business of infecting people.
As Rodney suggested, seek counseling so you can learn to deal with your irrational thoughts. We cannot help you with that here.
If you continue to post about these NO RISK situations, you WILL be given that time out you've been warned about. Please consider yourself warned for the last time!!!
Ann